What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

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What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun Jul 07, 2013 5:47 pm

Area Sum of Days Sum of Vertical Sum of Powder
Mammoth 18 423.7 32
Snowbird 7.5 164.5 22
Alta 2.5 38.3 11
Sun Valley 1 31.8 0
Fernie 1 21.3 2
Whitewater 1 18.3 5
Red Mt. 1 9.4 0
Big Sky 1.5 27 1
Kicking Horse 1 17.2 0
Whitefish 1 18.4 1
Bridger Bowl 1 16.7 3
Moonlight Basin 1.5 20.5 5
Revelstoke 1 17.3 3
Mustang Powder Snowcat 3 34.7 33
*Lech/Zurs, Austria 1.5 30.8 3
*St. Anton, Austria 3 60.1 5
*Stuben, Austria 1.5 17.9 2
*Klosters Madrisa, Switz. 0.5 5.3 0
*Davos/Klosters Parsenn, Switz. 1.5 42.8 9
*Davos Jakobshorn, Switz. 1 13.3 2
*Flims/Laax, Switz. 2 43.1 1
*Andermatt, Switz. 1 12.3 2
*Purcell Heliski 1 11.6 11
*Wild Horse Snowcat 1 7.9 7
*Beartooth Pass 2 9.1 0
*Logan Pass 1 0.7 0
Season Totals 59 1114.0 160
* = new area


2012-13 was closer to the year before I retired (53/1078.6/173) than to 2010-11 (72/1318.3/191) or 2011-12 (71/1151.6/291).

Those previous 2 years were unusual. 13 Northern Hemisphere days in May or later of 2011 is unlikely to be repeated soon. Nor are the 8 backcountry days in Oct/Nov of 2011.

Some factors reduced 2012-13. The local SoCal season was hopeless and it's only the second season I've skied zero SoCal days. I also bailed out of 5 days on my destination trips (2 Europe, 1 on the big road trip and 2 after Iron Blosam week) due to adverse weather/snow conditions. OTOH 8 days at Mammoth in December was a record high and the last 3 days on the June/July vacation were also not typical. So I see future seasons in the 60 day range but 70+ will be much less likely.

I was also lucky with powder in those previous 2 years, with lift served powder in the 15% range vs. more typical 10%. 2012-13 got over 10% only due to that last minute Utah trip in mid-April.

I should also mention that Liz skied 15 new areas in 2012-13; my record is 13. She skied 38 days, easily beating her previous record of 29.
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby jamesdeluxe » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:20 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?.

A whiny SLCer who rarely if ever skied past April 15 complained that starting the recap thread around April 15 was ruining FTO's street cred.

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1 Alta, UT
1 Brighton, UT
2 Plattekill, NY
1 Windham, NY
4 Belleayre, NY
2 Shawnee, PA
2 Camelback, PA
3 Ischgl, AT
1 See, AT
1 Kappl, AT
1 Galtür, AT
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun Jul 07, 2013 6:26 pm

I think there was a consensus that May 1 was the logical starting time for the closing thread due to lift service being extremely limited after then. Early April during what is often still winter/powder season struck most of us as premature.
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Marc_C » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:24 am

jamesdeluxe wrote:
Tony Crocker wrote:What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?.

A whiny SLCer who rarely if ever skied past April 15 complained that starting the recap thread around April 15 was ruining FTO's street cred.

Nice list, but wtf are you talking about?
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby EMSC » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:35 am

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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby EMSC » Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:50 am

My totals are a bit odd compared to many recent seasons for me.

17 total days keeps me 1 day above my bottom of the barrel with the little guy around. I'm finally hopeful that I should be able to get a slow rebound in ski day numbers now that I can take him along for an hour here or there on some ski days... But frankly probably still quite limited in ski days for another year or two (he's only 3.5 right now).

Only 3 total resorts, 2 of whom I already have a huge number of ski days at:
Greek Peak 5
Eldora 11
Loveland 1

By Month
Nov 2
Dec 8
Jan 4
Feb 0
Mar 2
Apr 1

There was a new job starting on Jan 30th this year so I was out of the loop for a bit just as the season started to get good out here. I noted 2 powder days at Greek Peak of all places and one sort-of powder day at Loveland in March.
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Marc_C » Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:58 am


I still agree that April is too early for season tallys, even in the Northeast. I was specifically referring to:
jamesdelux wrote:A whiny SLCer who rarely if ever skied past April 15...

"Whiny SLCer" can be a lot of people O:) but the following clause is flat out factually wrong for anyone I know here.
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby lono » Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:12 am

119 Big Mt / Whitefish
2 Lookout Pass
1 Lost Trail Powder Mt
3. Big Sky

Surface conditions were consistintly soft Dec.- mid-mar. No deep day local,but plenty of soft boot high pow.
First time at Lost Trail,Thursday reopening with 27'' new.Super Duper!
Great corn snow last two weeks. Overall a fine ski year.
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby q » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:39 pm

19 Discovery Basin
5 Big Sky

No new resorts this year. Already booked for next winter, fly out on the 18th March and home on the 21st April. Think I will ski 2 1/2 weeks at Discovery and a free week at Big Sky with a week still to fill.
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Patrick » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:37 pm

Second year in a row affected by serious side issues even if it was a pretty good year snow wise here.

44 days...not sure if they be any more due to goes issues? This is probably going to be the second year in a row with under 50 days since 2003-04.

Started October 31 in West Virgina and last skied at Avila on July 1:

Here is the breakdown:

Edelweiss QC (Ottawa area) : 20
Fortune QC (Ottawa area) : 4
St-Sauveur QC (Laurentians) : 3 (all in May)
Ste-Marie QC (Ottawa area) : 3
Calabogie ON (Ottawa area) : 3
Mad River Glen VT : 2
Avila QC (Laurentians) : 2 (June and July)
Timberline WV : 1
White Grass WV : 1
Cascades QC (Ottawa area) : 1
Vorlage QC (Ottawa area) : 1
Sutton QC (Townships) : 1
Owl's Head QC (Townships) : 1
Orford QC (Townships) : 1

I haven't had a season (in a long time) with so little driving outside the region or so many days in ski area with small vertical.
Only 4 days out of 44 outside Canada. Only 12 days outside the region.

October : 1
November : 1
December : 7
January : 8
February : 9
March : 10
April : 3
May : 3
June : 1
July : 1

West Virginia : 2
Vermont : 2
Ontario : 3
Quebec : 37 (Ottawa QC side: 29 / Laurentians: 5 / Townships: 3)

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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby jamesdeluxe » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:46 am

Patrick wrote:Edelweiss QC (Ottawa area) : 20
Fortune QC (Ottawa area) : 4
St-Sauveur QC (Laurentians) : 3 (all in May)
Ste-Marie QC (Ottawa area) : 3
Calabogie ON (Ottawa area) : 3
Mad River Glen VT : 2
Avila QC (Laurentians) : 2 (June and July)
Timberline WV : 1
White Grass WV : 1
Cascades QC (Ottawa area) : 1
Vorlage QC (Ottawa area) : 1
Sutton QC (Townships) : 1
Owl's Head QC (Townships) : 1
Orford QC (Townships) : 1

I haven't had a season (in a long time) with so little driving outside the region or so many days in ski area with small vertical.

Tony will be along soon to give his opinion of Patrick's Ottawa-heavy season. [-X
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:51 am

jamesdeluxe wrote:Tony will be along soon to give his opinion of Patrick's Ottawa-heavy season. [-X

Little comment necessary; this has been going on for 3 seasons now.
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Marc_C » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:36 am

Tony Crocker wrote:
jamesdeluxe wrote:Tony will be along soon to give his opinion of Patrick's Ottawa-heavy season. [-X

Little comment necessary; this has been going on for 3 seasons now.

Apparently jamesdeluxe has taken on the role of :stir: this summer. Maybe the spectacular NE weather is taking it's toll on sanity?
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:39 am

I've been living in that
MarcC wrote:spectacular NE weather
for the past 2 weeks. :evil: We're going back to CA tomorrow.
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Re: What Happened to the Season Recap Thread?

Postby Patrick » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:43 am

Tony Crocker wrote:
jamesdeluxe wrote:Tony will be along soon to give his opinion of Patrick's Ottawa-heavy season. [-X

Little comment necessary; this has been going on for 3 seasons now.


Exactly. Combination of oldest daughter in serious racing and health issues for both of us plus other crap (I didn't race the last 2). :-(

Her serious racing is over, she's looking into coaching next season ... as for myself, next season dynamics should be very different.
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