Season 2014-2015 Plans

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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Geoff » Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:22 am

I have no 2014-2015 plans other than to roll out of bed and try to ski a couple of hours most days. My free cash flow is all tied up for 2015. I'm trying to zero out my mortgage by August. I'm planning to buy a new car with cash next fall. I have to replace two expensive glass doors in my Vermont condo. I'm getting a new mahogany rub rail and bowsprit/chain locker for the CQR anchor on my catboat over the winter on top of the usual boat yard bills.

I might grab a few free days at Copper if I'm in Denver on business since my season pass gives me 3 day tickets there. I might lug gear out to Vancouver when I'm out there for XMas to grab a day at Whistler if they have good snow. Other than that, it's unlikely I'll ski outside of New England this winter.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:27 pm

Geoff wrote:since my season pass gives me 3 day tickets there.

For the first time stingy Powdr Corp is finally offering limited reciprocal benefits at its other resorts to season passholders. This decision predated the Talisker/Vail trial and sale of PCMR: http://www.parkrecord.com/park_city-new ... -pcmr-pass

The somewhat complex options for pre-Vail PCMR/Powdr passholders are detailed here: http://www.parkcitymountain.com/site/ti ... n-pass-faq . Geoff gets 3 days at PCMR if he bought his Killington pass before 9/11/14.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Geoff » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:37 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:Geoff gets 3 days at PCMR if he bought his Killington pass before 9/11/14.


Yeah, but then I'd have to ski PCMR. It's my least-favorite ski area in Utah. If I'm burning frequent flyer miles, vacation days, and hotel/car rental/restaurant money to fly to Utah, I'm unlikely to want to bother with PCMR. When my mom lived in Park City, sure. At the time, my season pass worked at Canyons so I skied a lot of days there. If I'm going now, I'm likely to avoid the three Park City ski areas completely.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:43 pm

I generally share Geoff's sentiment about the Utah ski areas. But his Copper comment piqued my interest to research Powdr Corp's policy regarding reciprocal benefits, and what would happen for 2014-15 after PCMR was sold to Vail.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Geoff » Tue Nov 11, 2014 2:03 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:I generally share Geoff's sentiment about the Utah ski areas. But his Copper comment piqued my interest to research Powdr Corp's policy regarding reciprocal benefits, and what would happen for 2014-15 after PCMR was sold to Vail.


We all got a letter or email that PCMR under the Vail empire would honor anybody with a Killington season pass who was eligible for the 3 days.

Another thing that was added this year was 3 days at Okemo. Not that I'm all excited about Okemo but it's a good option on a midweek powder day when all the Killington locals come out of the woodwork and track it out in an hour. ...at least, that's when I plan to use my days. I used to go down to Mount Snow occasionally midweek when my pass worked there on powder days where they got more snow than Killington. I enjoy skiing intermediate mountains where you still can find untracked everywhere at 3:00.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Tony Crocker » Tue Nov 11, 2014 4:35 pm

Liz and are on a scuba trip to Yap and Truk in Micronesia Dec. 1-15, as that is the only time we could get on the boat we want and use FF miles to get there. This is why I predict lots of snow in the West for December. :-) That's fine with me as I'll be delighted if Mammoth has good skiing for the week before Christmas. A preview in November would be nice, but I'm not betting on that.

I can stay in a friend's Vail timeshare Jan. 10-16. Driving, we have lots of options (Aspen, Utah, even JH) for the following week if we want to extend. But we're tempted to try another Euro trip in late Jan/early Feb if it looks good over there.

Feb. 18 fly to Kelowna, join Tseeb's road trip, then I fly home Mar. 1 from Missoula while he drives on to Jackson and Utah. We have Feb. 21-23 skiing at Mustang Snowcat, will choose lift service areas the other days based upon convenience and snow.

March 7-14 Snowbird timeshare

March 15 fly to Iceland via Seattle. Liz and I are on a one-week tour that includes a solar eclipse flight March 20. We'll stay on after the tour to ski one day lift service and probably 3 with Arctic Heliskiing.

We fly back to Seattle March 31, expect to ski Whistler April 2-6.

Hopefully there will be another 2 months of Mammoth skiing after the long distance trips are done.

Geoff wrote: Not that I'm all excited about Okemo but it's a good option on a midweek powder day

Okemo has enough pitch to ski powder??? :-k
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Admin » Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:17 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:
Geoff wrote: Not that I'm all excited about Okemo but it's a good option on a midweek powder day

Okemo has enough pitch to ski powder??? :-k


They don't get enough powder that pitch becomes an issue!
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby jamesdeluxe » Wed Nov 12, 2014 5:59 am

Tony Crocker wrote:Okemo has enough pitch to ski powder??? :-k

It's the Grand Targhee of southern Vermont!
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby tseeb » Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:26 am

Tony Crocker wrote:
Feb. 18 fly to Kelowna, join Tseeb's road trip, then I fly home Mar. 1 from Missoula while he drives on to Jackson and Utah. We have Feb. 21-23 skiing at Mustang Snowcat, will choose lift service areas the other days based upon convenience and snow.

March 7-14 Snowbird timeshare

My late Feb/early Mar road trip begins with one day driving to and one day skiing Bachelor, either Mon/Tues or Tues/Wed of President's week. Then, if I have time on the way to Mustang Powder Cats, I will stop at Whitewater and ski the morning of 2/20 when I need to be at pickup for Mustang by 3:30 PM. This will be my first time skiing in Canada. After three days at Mustang our choices including Revelstoke (very close to Mustang, but may save for another year), Lake Louise/Sunshine (free for me on MCP) and Kicking Horse for next three days. Then most likely we will be at Fernie and Whitefish the last Fri/Sat in Feb.

Since I'm dropping Tony C at Missoula airport early on Sun, March 1, I will probably drive to and ski Discovery that day, then drive to Belgrade/Bozemon afterwards. March 2 will be Big Sky, then drive towards Driggs/Jackson afterwards. I'm hoping March 3 will be day EpicSki gathering goes to Targhee so I have shorter drive and don't have to backtrack. After getting my three free MCP days at the tail-end of EpicSki gathering at JHMR, I plan to drive to Evanston, WY and then ski Canyons and/or Park City for a day or two before joining Tony C's Snowbird timeshare group and using my MCP days there. Then I will return to CA with the possibility of skiing at one of Tahoe Vail resorts on the way through.

Trip will be at least three weeks with the possibility of skiing every day except for two long drive days from CA to OR (525 miles San Jose to Bend) and from OR to BC (535 mile Bend to Kelowna). I also have one more long drive from SLC to Tahoe (550 miles to Truckee, 575 to So. Tahoe). Only reservations so far are for Mustang (already paid) and for inexpensive motel in Jackson for three nights beginning March 3 that can be canceled until 3/2. So far the price of gas and the exchange rate have moved in my favor. I hope I don't jinx myself posting this here.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Tony Crocker » Wed Nov 12, 2014 12:30 pm

tseeb wrote:Then, if I have time on the way to Mustang Powder Cats, I will stop at Whitewater and ski the morning of 2/20 when I need to be at pickup for Mustang by 3:30 PM.

That would be likely be Silver Star coming from Kelowna. I will probably ski Big White 2/19. It could take nearly 5 hours to drive from Whitewater to Mustang's pickup, including a ferry crossing that only runs once an hour. Ski area drive times to Mustang pickup:
Revelstoke 1 hour
Silver Star 1.5 hours
Big White 2.5 hours
Sun Peaks 2.7 hours
Kicking Horse 3 hours

tseeb wrote: I hope I don't jinx myself posting this here.

The overhyped El Nino has been moving in western Canada's favor too. The MEI for SEP/OCT has fallen to an insignificant +.360 from +.815 just 2 months ago.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby EMSC » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:13 pm

I'm Breaking all the rules and will be skiing JH in March.

I tried to push for early Feb, but was overruled by everyone flying in from elsewhere. I hope it's in the storm cycle in early March as the last thing I want is to ski the hobacks as a refrozen mess.

Other than that, nothing on the planning board other than getting Jr up to speed as a soon to be 5 yr old. New gig starting a couple months ago also means a lot less mid-week powder even if it is a good snow year.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Admin » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:23 pm

EMSC wrote:the last thing I want is to ski the hobacks as a refrozen mess.


Been there. Done that. It sucked.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby socal » Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:16 pm

Admin wrote:
EMSC wrote:the last thing I want is to ski the hobacks as a refrozen mess.


Been there. Done that. It sucked.


+1, not fun

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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby tseeb » Wed Nov 12, 2014 6:35 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:
tseeb wrote:Then, if I have time on the way to Mustang Powder Cats, I will stop at Whitewater and ski the morning of 2/20 when I need to be at pickup for Mustang by 3:30 PM.


I better get than right since I'm taking you to the Mustang pickup and not sure if both of us will be paying for cell service in Canada.

EMSC wrote:I'm Breaking all the rules and will be skiing JH in March.

The Epic gathering and I will also be breaking that rule, but at least it will only be the first week of March.
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Re: Season 2014-2015 Plans

Postby Tony Crocker » Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:53 pm

EMSC wrote:the last thing I want is to ski the hobacks as a refrozen mess.

What it means most likely is that you won't be skiing the Lower Faces at all. You'll be skiing mostly the upper half of Rendezvous (Thunder and Sublette) plus Casper and Apres-Vous groomers. These should be reasonable in early March.

I can add that on one March day in 2001 Garry Klassen and I were with a guide who figured out that the Hobacks had firmed up just enough to be supportable for our last run ~4PM before getting refrozen. Maybe a knowledgeable local like Bob Peters will be able to time something like that. EMSC and company should probably track down Tseeb and the Epic group for local guidance.

And don't forget to bring avy gear for Rock Springs.

tseeb wrote:The Epic gathering .... will also be breaking that rule

That process resulted in my temporary ban from the Gathering thread. :lol: In contrast with past practice Jackson was voted as the Gathering site without an organizer or time frame. So there was controversy when the volunteer organizer who eventually emerged was only available to do it in late February/early March.
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