Ikon pass to rival Vail's Epic pass...

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Re: Ikon pass to rival Vail's Epic pass...

Postby ShiftyRider » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:12 pm

They changed the Ikon Base Pass -- now ya get unlimited Mammoth ski daze except Christmas, MLK, and Prez holiday periods for the $599, thanks to people like me who complained about how originally it was gonna cost ~$200 more than 17/18 for the only Mammoth season pass equivalent.
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Re: Ikon pass to rival Vail's Epic pass...

Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:25 pm

Interesting. The base Mammoth/Big Bear Pass was $699 in 2017-18. I had assumed they still wanted to sell that and not let the $599 Ikon undercut it, as Mammoth has a significant customer base that skis nowhere else and won't care about the other Ikon areas. Steamboat and Stratton similarly allow unlimited skiing only on the full Ikon Pass, but I don't know what their season pass history is. I was under the impression that Steamboat's was quite expensive.
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Re: Ikon pass to rival Vail's Epic pass...

Postby ShiftyRider » Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:48 pm

An article I read yesterday discussed that, with stats. Probably The Sheet...
http://thesheetnews.com/wp-content/uplo ... 3.2018.pdf
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Re: Ikon pass to rival Vail's Epic pass...

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:22 pm

Good analysis by The Sheet. Like the author I have always viewed SoCal as somewhat of a captive market for Mammoth, so most would have paid the $899 if push came to shove. At any rate I'm pleased that Alterra listed to the pushback from people like ShiftyRider. I suspect Rusty (new CEO of Alterra) understands Mammoth's market as well as anyone.

I am also pleased that Mammoth is now pushing for air service via Bishop, which will take bigger planes and not be subject to the chronic crosswinds and unsuccessful flights at Mammoth airport. Some of us have been saying for a decade or more that the air service should be to Bishop. Evidently the Bishop locals were against it during the Intrawest/Mammoth development years 15-20 years ago but now they are for it.
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Re: Ikon pass to rival Vail's Epic pass...

Postby Marc_C » Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:13 am

Tony Crocker wrote:I am also pleased that Mammoth is now pushing for air service via Bishop,... <snip> Evidently the Bishop locals were against it during the Intrawest/Mammoth development years 15-20 years ago but now they are for it.

What are the local economic conditions in Bishop now vs then?
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Re: Ikon pass to rival Vail's Epic pass...

Postby Tony Crocker » Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:02 pm

Marc_C wrote:What are the local economic conditions in Bishop now vs then?

Hard to say. Bishop tourism is heavily summer oriented: hiking, fishing, Mule Days Memorial weekend, a rodeo Labor Day weekend.

The Intrawest years were 1998-2006 and the plan then was to make Mammoth a true national destination. Access remains the biggest deterrent if you poll skiers from the eastern 2/3 of the country, and the highly unreliable Mammoth airport only served from west coast cities (thus 2 plane changes for many easterners) hasn't changed that issue much.
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