Where would you like to retire????

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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Tony Crocker » Wed Jun 11, 2014 9:53 pm

I was unaware of the Alta gold card. The decision point between that and an Alta pass is about 22 days. The gold card doesn't help much with Snowbird. Half price Alta day ticket plus upgrade is close to the price of a ski shop Snowbird ticket.

In a thread last year there was discussion of single area vs. AltaBird and how many days at the less frequented area are needed. It was over 20 at one point but with a combined pass at $1450 it's only about 14 days.

And remember if you have an Alta, Snowbird OR combined pass you still get half price at Jackson and the other Mtn Collective areas.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Marc_C » Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:48 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:I was unaware of the Alta gold card. The decision point between that and an Alta pass is about 22 days. The gold card doesn't help much with Snowbird.

To reemphasize what Admin said, you need to prove you are a Utah resident to get the Alta Gold card - driver's license, property tax statement, etc.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Marc_C » Sat Jun 14, 2014 2:01 pm

Not retirement, but SLC ranks #5 in this list:
http://mashable.com/2014/06/14/cities-satisfied-employees/
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby BigSpencer » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:50 am

RETIRE.....whew...beats me...need the outdoors....with...let's see, top medical facilities...
Up in the air right now....more jobs are here & there.. Those who have ties to multiple places, including skiing, I never considered...but now are looking pretty attractive. Even eyeing some jobs at some resorts...
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby flyover » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:54 am

Best Outside town of 2014?

. . . wait for it . . .

Duluth, Minnesota! http://www.outsideonline.com/adventure- ... sults.html

Suck on that Provo (and Jackson, Bend, Boulder, etc.)!

Outstanding medical care in Minnesota, as well.

Unfortunately, it is a long way from any mountains.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Marc_C » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:37 am

flyover wrote:Best Outside town of 2014?

. . . wait for it . . .

Duluth, Minnesota! http://www.outsideonline.com/adventure- ... sults.html

Suck on that Provo (and Jackson, Bend, Boulder, etc.)!

Outstanding medical care in Minnesota, as well.

Unfortunately, it is a long way from any mountains.

And filled with Minnesotans.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Tony Crocker » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:32 am

Online reader polls.....

Anyone remember this one? http://www.powdermag.com/stories/ski-to ... down-2014/
I've critiqued Powder's Powder-Per-Person formula for ski town rating, mainly for using questionable data. But the resulting seeding for the Throwdown is at least strongly influenced by snowfall and ski area scale. The readers selected two #16's over #1's, with a #15 winning the entire contest. I have no idea how Outside seeded their poll, but the seeding makes somewhat more sense than the poll results.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby flyover » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:16 am

Tony Crocker wrote:Online reader polls.....


... often yield very, very silly results. That was pretty much my point. (Although I was serious about the medical care being pretty good.)

Listen, if wilderness canoeing is your bag, there is no better city in the lower 48 to call your home with the B.W.C.A.W. only an hour-and-a-half away. Objectively, Duluth should also probably be top ranked for cross country skiing within city limits. Road biking, mountain biking, hiking, sailing, whitewater and sea kayaking are all very good within city limits and within very short drives up either the North or South shore of Superior, but are all limited by the long winters. Short-pitch rock and ice climbing opportunities are a lot better than you would think. Surfers tell me the surfing's not bad, for those maniacs willing to brave the frigid waters of Superior.

On the other hand, of course, I going to hazard a guess that even the majority of Outside Magazine's readers might be a little less than enthusiastic about what winter really means in the Twin Ports. This year, the ice went out on the big lake in early June.

Marc_C wrote: And filled with Minnesotans.


Not just Minnesotans, but Dulutherans
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby jimk » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:11 pm

For something like retirement where you are personally going to inhabit a property for a good percent of the time and own it for a number of years I've seen two salient points recently that I hadn't thought seriously about before in the context of a ski home purchase: consider getting a place where the locals live rather than where the tourists temporarily visit so you get more of a stable environment, and consider buying a single family home on an actual plot of land instead of a condo for a better ROI. Of course, I guess a positive ROI is never a given with vacation/resort property.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Tony Crocker » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:17 pm

jimk wrote:For something like retirement where you are personally going to inhabit a property for a good percent of the time and own it for a number of years I've seen two salient points recently that I hadn't thought seriously about before in the context of a ski home purchase: consider getting a place where the locals live rather than where the tourists temporarily visit so you get more of a stable environment, and consider buying a single family home on an actual plot of land instead of a condo for a better ROI.

Both of these are real estate maxims that are usually true, and a lot easier to come by in the SLC area than in many resort towns. However, I'm not sure I'd want a single family home if I was only going to be there 4-5 months a year. Before jamesdeluxe takes a swing at that softball, the decision to put oneself into that situation is a different one than a decision to leave one's longstanding residence of decades.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Marc_C » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:59 pm

Relating what two retired couples I know have done:
1. Former coworkers retired and moved from CT to their retirement home on a lake in NH. For the past 4 seasons they've been spending Jan through early April in Utah in seasonal condo rentals.

2. My friends from the Seattle area kept their house there and bought a 3 BR condo in Sandy - they spend the full Alta season in UT, Seattle the rest of the year.

Friends of my mom did the same but opposite: summer in Park City and over-winter in Scottsdale AZ (golfers, not skiers).
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Re: re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Harvey44 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 7:34 pm

Just reread this entire thread. Pretty cool really. We are going to some new forum software on NYSB and this makes me feel like the huge PITA to keep all the old posts is probably worth it.

Harvey44 wrote:I'm still deciding where to retire. I would certain love North River. Lot's of friends up there. And let's face it when you are retired and living next door to alpine skiing, XC skiing, hiking, rafting and 100,000 acres of backcountry, you'll get the goods even in a marginal year. Also if you swing it right, hopefully you can afford to travel. But....still don't know.

The downside up there is really May 15 through July 15 - bug season. Otherwise the whole darn year is fantastic. I suppose I could use that time to work in my screened in ceramics studio, he fantasized.

SLC isn't out of the question. Or Burlington. Mmmm Burlington.


Interesting that for me almost all of this is still true. Differences are, I"m definitely staying in the east, and instead of ceramics as my hobby I'm blogging. And it seems the bug season is longer now.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby Admin » Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:22 pm

What's a bug season?
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby jamesdeluxe » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:11 am

Admin wrote:What's a bug season?

One of the few advantages of living in a brown, dry desert.
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Re: Where would you like to retire????

Postby jimk » Wed Aug 13, 2014 11:26 am

As I continue to look at an extended winter visit to ski country after retirement I am finding long term lodging to be the predominant cost driver. For example, a big summer destination like Jackson, WY has some cheap winter housing. Even factoring-in the expensive Jackson Hole season pass, staying there for two months in winter is potentially less expensive overall than buying the bargain priced Rocky Mtn Super Pass and staying in a condo for two months in Summit County or other areas of Colorado. If you consider a bedroom or basement apt in a group house you could beat the typical condo rental cost, but it is hard for a tourist to locate, negotiate, and get a good comfort factor on that sort of arrangement from afar.
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