Tony Crocker":3645n07u said:rfarren's skill set (Little Chute???)
Can some direct me to the thread where Rob skied Little Chute? I missed it.
Tony Crocker":3645n07u said:rfarren's skill set (Little Chute???)
Tony Crocker":235kpwpb said:
It's about the same as Main Chute - around 50 degrees, at the steep parts, and a very consistent 45+ for the remainder. One difference is that Little has two steeper sections - entry, then right around the choke crux. The issue with Little isn't so much the steepness, but there isn't much room for error. Even when filled in, it's still pretty narrow at the crux - early and late season it's mandatory air right there as well. A pretty committing line, no matter when. Definitely DFU territory. An Alta patroller rag-dolled in there for the full 900 vertical feet last season. It's fortunate she wasn't more busted up than she was (one tib/fib and a bunch of bruises and contusions, iirc).Harvey44":13jk03tk said:How steep?
Would love to hear what Tele Jon has to say about all that. Does he use a releasable binding?
Not saying you aren't correct, but unless you measured it, people generally exaggerate the steepness of slopes.Marc_C":1f1oyjx8 said:It's about the same as Main Chute - around 50 degrees, at the steep parts, and a very consistent 45+ for the remainder.
It can vary quite a bit depending on time of year, amount of fill, etc. Also, a lot of Asmus' pitch readings are a bit on the low side as corroborated with an slope meter on a ski pole resting on the snow surface. It wouldn't be the only significant error in his books. (EG: there's a huge disparity between what he calls Supreme Bowl and what the patrol and all the sings call Supreme Bowl. We'll not even discuss his placing Eye of the Duck at Snowbird in two different spots on the mountain).Patrick":59psr2we said:Not saying you aren't correct, but unless you measured it, people generally exaggerate the steepness of slopes.
Main Chute and Little Chute have a 42 degree pitchs (not a very consistent 45+) according to one of Admin's sponsors.
Yes, and measuring a specific spot is too subject to that season's snow deposition pattern. IMHO any discussion of "steep runs" should be based upon average pitch over a minimum of 500 vertical.It can vary quite a bit depending on time of year, amount of fill, etc....I'll be the first to admit that without measurement, it's damned hard to get a resolution of finer than 5 degrees with human estimation, and in actual practice, it's probably closer to 10 degrees.
Tony Crocker":29iyx8ow said:The Andrew McLean ratings are once again online. Little Chute appear to be 4+ on his scale. Though Main has similar pitch, it's clearly not quite as difficult, due to being wider and probably having less severe fall consequences.
S4- .... Slopes 35–45° with safe run-outs and little to no dangerous terrain features.
Baldy Chutes - Alta
RATING: S4 ***
PITCH: 38–40°
EXPOSURE: North– NE
ELEVATIONS: 8,500’ – 11,068’
VERTICAL: 750’
Tony Crocker":29iyx8ow said:icelantic's post is illuminating for skiing this type of terrain. If you think you might fall, you have no business being on that kind of exposed terrain in the first place. That doesn't mean you're being reckless. You may need to ski very conservatively. But you should know you are capable of "getting down" before you commit.
Just to confirm, 'cause there are some typos above...McLean puts Little Chute at S4 (no + or -). S4 is categorized as "Slopes 35-45 degrees with dangerous fall potential and terrain obstacles". But he also puts both at 40 deg. To me, both feel steeper than the upper half* of High Rustler - not significantly, but noticeably, and as mentioned before, it really does depend on coverage. We all know someone on this forum who has done Little in early season when it has 15' of mandatory air. That's a bit more than one would typically expect on an S4. One other point: imho, McLean tends to under report steepness on the easier (for him) lines, but again, comparing 40 deg to 42 deg is more of a bar stool debate than something you feel on the hill.Patrick":svgqha5e said:Tony Crocker":svgqha5e said:The Andrew McLean ratings are once again online. Little Chute appear to be 4+(Plus) on his scale. Though Main has similar pitch, it's clearly not quite as difficult, due to being wider and probably having less severe fall consequences.
Quote from Andrew McLean. He categorises Little Chute as being a S4.
S4-(minus) .... Slopes 35–45° with safe run-outs and little to no dangerous terrain features.