riverc0il wrote:Though this all just goes to prove that booking in advanced is the worst way to arrange skiing trips. As the closer to the ski day you can make your trip, the better your outcome is likely to be.
Tony Crocker wrote:The powder issue is also independent. But if there's an inadequate base on the steeps and you get lucky with a dump just as you arrive you still may not get to ski the terrain you want. This issue is relevant to some who try to push the envelope and book LCC for early December. Typically the first major dump of the season requires careful snow stabilization work by patrol, so there can be a several day lag between the storm and when the terrain is opened.
Marc_C wrote:Tony Crocker wrote:The powder issue is also independent. But if there's an inadequate base on the steeps and you get lucky with a dump just as you arrive you still may not get to ski the terrain you want. This issue is relevant to some who try to push the envelope and book LCC for early December. Typically the first major dump of the season requires careful snow stabilization work by patrol, so there can be a several day lag between the storm and when the terrain is opened.
Um, basically, no.
admin wrote:I was going to try to ignore that blatant misstatement...
Staley wrote:I can rest assured that I have given my family the best probability of a fabulous ski trip.
Staley wrote:....book vacations in the summer (as is often necessary for popular school breaks)
Tony Crocker wrote:admin wrote:I was going to try to ignore that blatant misstatement...
The delayed openings after big storms are due to the dump being on top of an unstable layer. This was the case in LCC in December 2009 and also December 2007. The instability being due to a prolonged dry spell with cold weather before those storms. So I misspoke about early season being the direct cause of the delay. But the requisite conditions (extended cold and dry before the dump) are somewhat more likely in November/December than later.
Tony Crocker wrote:so there can be a several day lag between the storm and when the terrain is opened
admin wrote:A decision on whether to bomb it or let it settle doesn't vary by early or late season, facet layer or none.
Tony Crocker wrote:admin wrote:A decision on whether to bomb it or let it settle doesn't vary by early or late season, facet layer or none.
Really? If the old base under the dump is only a foot or two, wouldn't you be more inclined to let it settle than bomb it and have it run to the ground?
Admin wrote:It is an odd mix of what's in the weather forecast, whether or not the whole thing's likely to come down, pent-up demand, etc.
Staley wrote:I can rest assured that I have given my family the best probability of a fabulous ski trip.
Tony Crocker wrote:Only a little bit. I think mainly you have given your family the least probability of a crappy trip. Targhee may not have been that great, but there's a long list of places that were much worse last Christmas.
Staley wrote:....book vacations in the summer (as is often necessary for popular school breaks)
Tony Crocker wrote:Not necessary for spring breaks IMHO, which vary a lot by state and often even by school system within a state. I took something like 15 late March/early April spring break vacations while raising kids and booked most of them in January or February. The spread out spring breaks also prevent most of the obnoxious price gouging that occurs for Christmas week.
Tony Crocker wrote:admin wrote:A decision on whether to bomb it or let it settle doesn't vary by early or late season, facet layer or none.
Really? If the old base under the dump is only a foot or two with a minefield of rocks showing, wouldn't you be more inclined to let it settle first than bomb it right away and have it run to the ground?
Tony Crocker wrote:Of course there are multiple considerations in snow stability control.![]()
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I would be surprised if a thin base underneath (which I suspect has a higher conditional probability of being weak) is not one of them.
Admin wrote:It is an odd mix of what's in the weather forecast, whether or not the whole thing's likely to come down, pent-up demand, etc.
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