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First Indoor Skiing in North America - Big Snow

Postby EMSC » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:34 am

James gets a new gig with Colorado required part of the time at the exact same time that NJ gets the first indoor, year round skiing in North America. Coincidence?

https://liftblog.com/2019/12/05/indoor-skiing-comes-to-america-with-big-snow/
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Postby jamesdeluxe » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:30 pm

No coincidence whatsoever. That indoor skiing structure has been there for what seems like forever and only recently opened -- just checked/it was built in 2008 when the place was called Xanadu.

There's a big thread in NY Ski Forum about it, if interested.
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Postby berkshireskier » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:58 pm

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ope-shreds

Interesting story on the indoor skiing in the new New Jersey mall. If global warming accelerates over time, will this be the future of skiing for many people?
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Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Nobody is going to invest money in something expected to be an alternative 30 years from now. The developers hope there is current demand for indoor skiing.

Where is indoor skiing most successful now? I think mainly in Euro ski markets that are not easy driving distance to the Alps, such as England, northern Germany, the Low Countries. My guess is that usage comes from beginners and some people practicing for their one week vacation in the Alps.

EMSC and James' references above comment that indoor is not so different from some places in the Midwest or Southeast and often more pleasant considering crowds, weather and surface conditions. There are times it will be more pleasant than Mountain Creek, the Poconos or the Catskills too. As with other "molehills," I think terrain parks may be a big attraction. I'm guessing it's still too short for much in the way of racing.

If I were picking a location for indoor skiing in the US, I'd choose a big metro area far from real skiing like Dallas or Atlanta. OTOH NYC is by far the biggest metro area, so only a tiny slice of its residents would be enough to make Big Snow successful.
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Postby berkshireskier » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:18 pm

Yea, I'm guessing this is more in the "novelty" genre than any serious attempt to make money from indoor skiing (and a way to get more people into the mall). I'd bet there will be quite a few "never-evers"- teenagers, etc. who will show up on a Friday night to see what it is like to TRY to ski or snowboard. I couldn't tell from the photos in the story what sort of protective cushioning they have along the sides of the"slope" or how long a run-out they have at the bottom. But I could see a LOT of collisions and accidents happening there. A true WROD!
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Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Tickets are good for two hours and times start/end every 15 minutes with a ticket limit. If that ticket limit is reasonable I predict lower skier density than on the busiest trails at Mt. High West or Hunter on a weekend.
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Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:32 pm

It has belatedly occurred to me that with the advent of Big SNOW, Patrick's ski streak now has a fail safe backup plan for the tough months.
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Re: First Indoor Skiing in North America - Big Snow

Postby EMSC » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:58 pm

Wait till Patrick's wife finds out. No more south America for him, lol.

He might even get a local cabbie in NJ to steal all his stuff to make it feel even more like his trips to south america (only half joking).
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Postby Patrick » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:06 pm

EMSC wrote:Wait till Patrick's wife finds out. No more south America for him, lol.


How ironic... I guess this made sense prior to the pandemic. :shock:

Actually when I started my ski streak I thought to myself that a drivable indoor ski destination could be use in case of emergency. New Jersey ex-Xanadu i.e.. Big Snow was slatted to open in Fall 2008. :-P

EMSC wrote:He might even get a local cabbie in NJ to steal all his stuff to make it feel even more like his trips to south america (only half joking).


Not sure if I should laugh or cry?

Ski streak is still alive. I got my November, next comes December.

It was one week short of 8 months if lift served skiing when I went skiing at St-Sauveur back on November 7. Definitely the longer period I've spent without crossing a border since the early 1980s and plane in 16 years. On a non-skiing note, I've never gone this long without seeing live music since my first concert when I was 12 back to that Kiss Love Gun's tour in 1977.
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Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:02 pm

Patrick wrote:On a non-skiing note, I've never gone this long without seeing live music since my first concert when I was 12 back to that Kiss Love Gun's tour in 1977.

Liz' last live music event was John Waite in Clearwater last Feb. 28. Her goal is being smushed against other people and the musicians in a small, poorly ventilated jazz club.

In my case, I've been a Dodger season ticket holder since 1979 but did not attend any of the first winning World Series since 1988. Adam discouraged me from going to Texas. He was right. Lonnie knew a father and son who went and both got Covid.

These activities are not happening until we are vaccinated. Audiences yelling and screaming don't work even if they are spaced a couple of rows apart. See Trump rallies as Exhibit A. :stir:
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