Tremblant, QC - January 14, 2007

Patrick

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Okay, I was getting tired of skiing the small vertical with the limited terrain. So why not drive 2 hours from Ottawa to ski a real mountain (100 miles / 160km)?

With the prolonged (normal) cold spell, Tremblant took full advantage of their topnotch snowmaking to open up more runs. They received 9cm on Thursday and got a bit of freezing rain on Friday. However there wasn't much damage.

Number of trails open: 71 out of 92. :shock: I believe that probably of one the best rate of among the major Eastern ski areas.

This was going to be a daytrip between my daughter and myself (also to finally take advantage of the Warren Miller 2-for-1). Morgane was excited at her first Miller movie also because of the vouchers.:p

Plan departures: 7am - actual 8:15am :?

After two hours of driving, we finally started skiing at 11am. Liftlines were important, but diedown pretty fast at lunch and never really picked up again.

Normally I don't have a problem making enough runs when I start at 11am, however I forgot I was skiing with Morgane, who's 9. So we didn't take the single line and weren't aggressive in the liftlines. :lol: We parked on the North side where you can still park near a walking distance from the lifts, started on the Expo HSQ which has a 375m vert and where the line wasn't too crazy. Morgane forgot how the lifts are fast at Tremblant compared to the local hills.

Started off with Fuddle Duddle which is mainly without artificial snow (I think?) but conditions were good, unless you want the manicure Mcskiing slick snow. Next run was the neighbouring trail, Windigo, a nice glade blue run (pretty steep for a gladed blue) with a few bumps. There were a few branches sticky out of the snow, I didn't hit anything. There was a sign at the entrance of these trails, "Marginal skiing", but like I said the only think really "marginal" was that it wasn't McSnow.

After that Morgane's feet were cold and we headed inside for a quick lunch. :?

The lodge at the bottom of the Northside has been totally revamp, the bottom became a rental-shop/boutique while the upper level (the old bar) became the main cafeteria. A real difference from that early 1960s modern look. The top cafeteria was connected to a packed lunch heated tent. Pretty convenient, however I'm pretty sure that is going to change soon and become something more permanent in the future. (The North side base has remained, until now, mostly unchanged since the 1970s with the exception of the destruction of a few smaller side building many years ago. The only survivor is the old Lodge ran by the Duncan family back in the good old Mont Tremblant Lodge days which is now pretty much run down and been closed for a few years at least. :cry:

Versant Soleil

Okay, back to skiing. The next run consisted of two runs on down Versant Soleil (something like 550m vert). The easiest run is a blue which is in fact 3 trails (perfect example of the multiplication of trails numbers). Franc Sud becomes Tobogan to finish in the final pitch (which was very slick) Tape-Cul. The black Tiguido was the only another run on this side which has a limited amount of trails including glades which are facing directly south.

Another Intrawest village. After having build a mini Disney at the bottom of the South side, Intrawest has started building the first few lodge/condos (whatever you want to call them) at the bottom of Versant Soleil. The initial plan I believe includes an artificial lake, a conference centre and a casino. :roll: This area was fairly isolated before, it won't be for long.

South side:

After these two runs, Morgane wanted to ski to the Village down 645m verts and take the gondola (twice). :lol: She also wanted to ski the same run, Taschereau (black) on the top had some nice small bumps in the centre of the trails. On the mid part, we took Dernier Cri which is just a short pitch which was icy as suspected. The final Johansen pitch above the village was a small mogul field due to the fact that most skiers skiing the south side end up on that pitch. The bottom is soft artficial snow bumps, the sugar type snow. :lol: The other main upper black runs I believe were close due to races (Grand Prix) and training (Kandahar). McCulloch was free for tourist to ski down.

Back to the North side:

You don't want to be on the wrong side of the hill at the end of the day. Morgane wanted to see the part of the mountain called The Edge, skiied the Upper part of Beauchemin all the way to the bottom of The Edge Fixed Quad, it had just closed. :( Oh well, all the way to the bottom to catch the Duncan HSQ Express to the top. Next run was the small one again, it became the last run because Morgane was cold again at the day was almost over.

Summary:

Conditions on Main Artificial Snow open trails were similar to what someone would find during a normal January at Tremblant. Hard, but not necessarily icy conditions. We could find some pretty loose stuff on the side of the trail left ungroomed.

Conditions on limited or natural snow trails was good, but more of what someone would except in mid December. Not bad all things considered.

An important note to self, next time I go to Tremblant with Morgane, arrive early and take more breaks in order to get the most runs possible out of her.

Total runs: 8 for a total of approx 4380 meters in 4:10 :p
 
An important note to self, next time I go to Tremblant with Morgane, arrive early and take more break in order to get the most runs possible out of her.
When i take my daughters(9&12 yrs) skiing ,we leave no later than 6:30 ( hunter is 1.45min away) We eat breakfast , I stuff their boots and mitts with warmers(no matter what the temp is). We can now ski for 2.5 with out a break. Lunch at 11 , ski till 2 home by 4.
 
Patrick":3fyhcvp0 said:
The only survivor is the old Lodge ran by the Duncan family back in the good old Mont Tremblant Lodge days which is pretty much run down and been closed for a few years at least. :cry:

I have always been curious what that building was, since my first trip to Tremblant almost 20 years ago. It's too bad, because with some renovations it could still be a really beautiful building, an icon of Tremblant's history.
 
Jonny D":19gb5u35 said:
It's too bad, because with some renovations it could still be a really beautiful building, an icon of Tremblant's history.

History has never had an important place in the eyes of Intrawest development of Tremblant. When they arrived at Tremblant, Intrawest wanted to start with a clean slate, they trashed the old Tremblant philosophy of small individual cottages and country setting for the imitation Urban old-Quebec City style building at the base of the South side.

They wanted to create something new, they could have potentially have better incorporated the old Mont Tremblant Lodge into the "new" Tremblant, but that would have probably required some re-thinking of their vision of their Intrawest village model started at Whistler then exported all over North America. :?

I remember when Intrawest had just arrived at Tremblant and their plans were known, Lucky Luke was an architect student at the time and mentioned how we would have done things differently.

jasoncapecod":19gb5u35 said:
When i take my daughters(9&12 yrs) skiing ,we leave no later than 6:30 ( hunter is 1.45min away) We eat breakfast , I stuff their boots and mitts with warmers(no matter what the temp is). We can now ski for 2.5 with out a break. Lunch at 11 , ski till 2 home by 4.

My wife had a previous engagement and we couldn't plan leaving prior to 7am - however that doesn't explain the past 8 o'clock departure. :oops:

You eat breakfast at the ski area or before you leave home?
 
Thanks for that and the local info Patrick. Not a Tremblant McMountain fan but they do have the runs this season, so kudos where it's due. I also note you only mention icy conditions once, which isn't bad. After all the ice battles of last season that would be like velvet.

On the North side, are there still officially sanctioned areas where you can bring your own food, or has that become a "no box lunch" zone like the summit and south side?
 
Spensar":13lfkgsw said:
On the North side, are there still officially sanctioned areas where you can bring your own food, or has that become a "no box lunch" zone like the summit and south side?
The attachment tent to the revamp Devil's Fork lodge in a "lunch box" zone, plus I believe that the bottom floor of the Grand Manitou at the summit (under the main floor) still allows box lunchs, however I cannot confirm this for this season.

Spensar":13lfkgsw said:
I also note you only mention icy conditions once, which isn't bad. After all the ice battles of last season that would be like velvet.
I don't think it was any worst than any other average January day at Tremblant. Some people would call it icy, however what people can "ice" varies greatly from one person to the next.
 
believe or not, my kids like the greasy breakfast served at the lodge :roll: i personally pass.. it is usually a mommy free day .. so the kids pig out on all the junk the lodge has to offer :wink:
 
jasoncapecod":3ix8ric6 said:
believe or not, my kids like the greasy breakfast served at the lodge :roll: i personally pass.. it is usually a mommy free day .. so the kids pig out on all the junk the lodge has to offer :wink:
:D
 
Patrick":1o8i3ajy said:
The attachment tent to the revamp Devil's Fork lodge in a "lunch box" zone, plus I believe that the bottom floor of the Grand Manitou at the summit (under the main floor) still allows box lunchs, however I cannot confirm this for this season.

I thought I saw the no "lunch box" signs on the bottom floor too, but that was probably only for only part. It was pretty well ignored and at least people weren't being busted. I'm glad there was some refuge for those with a few cubes of cheese from home. I in shock when I say the signs prohibiting food coming in. Maybe this is standard for places like Tremblant and Stowe, but it is just seems anti-skiing.

Patrick":1o8i3ajy said:
I don't think it was any worst than any other average January day at Tremblant. Some people would call it icy, however what people can "ice" varies greatly from one person to the next.

True enough. From reading your reports I assumed you were referring real ice versus hardpack.
 
No comment on actual temperatures. So I don't know whether to sympathize with Morgane's cold feet (-15C to -20C was a noteworthy event at Mammoth but may be routine at Tremblant) or suggest that you move her to a warmer climate. She definitely needs to move to a region with better mountains and snow :p .
 
It is really discouraging to see what is going on at Tremblant as it has nothing to do with the skiing and all with the housing development. True ,the area was run down and badly managed in the past but now the pendulum has swung too far the other way as they are so out of touch with what the Quebec winter scene is. Their development plan is so fake. I am amazed that it has been such a success. Well at least they can?t change the temperature as nothing like taking a early run down Tremblant with the temperature at minus 40 C. Who knows maybe a dome is next. :lol:
 
Tony Crocker":273shl8n said:
No comment on actual temperatures. So I don't know whether to sympathize with Morgane's cold feet or suggest that you move her to a warmer climate. She definitely needs to move to a region with better mountains and snow :p .

It was like -8c on Sunday. However before she can move and shread the West, she needs to master Eastern cold and Ice. :wink:

Anthony":273shl8n said:
It is really discouraging to see what is going on at Tremblant as it has nothing to do with the skiing and all with the housing development. (...)
Their development plan is so fake. I am amazed that it has been such a success.
I'm thinking White Elephant when everyone start retiring, winter are shorter and the infrastructure needs renovations and improvement in 20 years down the road.
 
Patrick said:
History has never had an important place in the eyes of Intrawest development of Tremblant. When they arrived at Tremblant, Intrawest wanted to start with a clean slate, they trashed the old Tremblant philosophy of small individual cottages and country setting for the imitation Urban old-Quebec City style building at the base of the South side.

The first time I visited T was the year before Intrawest bought it, and everything was as it had been for a while (though you could tell some stuff was definatley in bad shape). My thoughts were "how quaint", and that the little cottages reflected the beauty of the area.

When I went there again 3 years ago, driving into the valley for the first time, my thoughts were "what a friggin' circus"....
 
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