Eastern closing thread - 2009-10

[Patrick]

A few changes...

Quebec:
Val d'Irène - April 18
Mont Miller - April 18
Mont Ste-Anne - April 25
Mont St-Sauveur - May 2 (If possible)

NH:
Wildcat - April 19

VT:
Killington - May 1
Jay - May 3
Sugarbush - TBD

ME:
Sunday River - April 19
Sugarloaf - April 25

[Geoff]

VT:
Killington - May 1

Where are you getting May 1 from? I've been hearing they are going to try for May 2nd if the snow holds up.

[Patrick]

VT:
Killington - May 1

Where are you getting May 1 from? I've been hearing they are going to try for May 2nd if the snow holds up.

I've spent little time looking and researching each claim this year, however that date is taken from Onthesnow.com site. You'll notice that on the first post from this thread, May 2nd was mentioned for K.

[Patrick]

One update, Ste-Anne is NOT closing one weekend early (someone posted the wrong info - corrected it ). So after this weekend, half of the following ski areas will be closed.

Quebec:
Val d'Irène - April 18
Mont Miller - April 18
Mont Ste-Anne - April 25
Mont St-Sauveur - May 2 (If possible)

NH:
Wildcat - April 19

VT:
Killington - May 1
Jay - May 3
Sugarbush - TBD

ME:
Sunday River - April 19
Sugarloaf - April 25

[kingslug]

Hunter had a secondary reason to close a little early...they want to start building their zipline towers.

[jasoncapecod]

Hunter had a secondary reason to close a little early...they want to start building their zipline towers.

and the new 6pack

[Patrick]

Another update...Sugarbush's last day is this Sunday. ONLY 5 areas mentioned trying to make it open next weekend (the Loaf, MSA, MSS, Kmart and Jay).

edit: St-Sauveur is going to be closed tomorrow (rain in the forecast), need to confirm for Sunday. MSS is on a weekend late season schedule and still mentioning possibilities for the following two weekends.

edit: corrected MSA data.

Quebec:
Val d'Irène - April 18
Mont Miller - April 18
Mont Ste-Anne - April 25
Mont St-Sauveur - May 2 (If possible)

NH:
Wildcat - April 19

VT:
Sugarbush - April 18
Killington - May 2 (if possible)
Jay - May 3 (if possible)

ME:
Sunday River - April 19
Sugarloaf - April 25


Comparision with 2008-2009:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7912

2007-2008:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6664

[Geoff]

KMart has publicly announced May 2, weather and conditions permitting.

[Patrick]

Thanks Geoff.

[Patrick]

Late season pow turns this weekend is some places.
Sugarloaf is extending into May. Wildcat is closing today with 33 trails. Sunday River has 11 for free, also last day.

Quebec:
Mont Ste-Anne - April 25 (Fri-Sat-Sun only)
Mont St-Sauveur - May 2 (If possible) - Fri-Sat-Sun only - if possible.

VT:
Killington - May 2 (if possible)
Jay - May 3 (if possible)

ME:
Sugarloaf - May 2

[Admin]

Killington has now officially moved up its closing date to this Sunday, April 25.

[Geoff]

Killington has now officially moved up its closing date to this Sunday, April 25.

Pretty lame ass. I was out there today. Superstar will easily make May 2nd. I hiked over and skied East Fall. That will also still be good on May 2nd based on how it is now.

They sold their season passes claiming "Early November to Early May". I'll bet I can convince the Vermont AG office to give a 1/6th refund to the spring passes they sold and a 1/26th refund to the rest of the season passes they sold. They have also said early May for next year's season pass and I already bought one so there's no backing out next year, either.

[Patrick]

They sold their season passes claiming "Early November to Early May". I'll bet I can convince the Vermont AG office to give a 1/6th refund to the spring passes they sold and a 1/26th refund to the rest of the season passes they sold. They have also said early May for next year's season pass and I already bought one so there's no backing out next year, either.

Geoff, you've been around long enough KMart to see the disconnect between hype and reality. The Beast altitude of the 80s and 90s is long gone...I remember that slogan October to June being around long after the fact. It would seem that they went back to the post 90s situation with a slogan not necessarily fitting to reality.

So when did Kmart finally open? How many weekends different are we talking about. There is one thing about claiming to push for May and having to close due to lack of coverage, it's another if you judge they had enough snow. Of course, 10 days is far away this time of year. If they would use the same coverage/quality that Kmart is making now, my guess is that Killington would have closed prior to June in maybe half the years they actually made it. The years 1985 and 1993 particularly come to mind as strenchy it out as late, no matter how many times you had to take off your skis. On the other hand, 1984, 1992, 1997 were particular good years.

[Geoff]

They sold their season passes claiming "Early November to Early May". I'll bet I can convince the Vermont AG office to give a 1/6th refund to the spring passes they sold and a 1/26th refund to the rest of the season passes they sold. They have also said early May for next year's season pass and I already bought one so there's no backing out next year, either.

Geoff, you've been around long enough KMart to see the disconnect between hype and reality. The Beast altitude of the 80s and 90s is long gone...I remember that slogan October to June being around long after the fact. It would seem that they went back to the post 90s situation with a slogan not necessarily fitting to reality.

So when did Kmart finally open? How many weekends different are we talking about. There is one thing about claiming to push for May and having to close due to lack of coverage, it's another if you judge they had enough snow. Of course, 10 days is far away this time of year. If they would use the same coverage/quality that Kmart is making now, my guess is that Killington would have closed prior to June in maybe half the years they actually made it. The years 1985 and 1993 particularly come to mind as strenchy it out as late, no matter how many times you had to take off your skis. On the other hand, 1984, 1992, 1997 were particular good years.

The difference is that the 2009-2010 Killington put "early May" on their season pass product (and on their 2010-2011 season pass product). If Superstar is skiable on May 1, that's a breach of contract. If I'd bought a spring pass that started March 22nd assuming I'd get 6 weekends out of it, I would certainly want 1/6th of my money back. We'll see what the Vermont attorney general's office has to say about it. Killington under ASC and POWDR has been called on a number of things by the AG office. Vermont is really big on enforcing their consumer protection laws.

[jamesdeluxe]

The difference is that the 2009-2010 Killington put "early May" on their season pass product (and on their 2010-2011 season pass product).

You're sure that there's no very tiny print following the "early May" promise? I'm sure you're right, but I find it hard to believe that a ski corporation's fleet of lawyers left themselves exposed on something like that. But given Killington's other marketing gaffes over the past few years, who knows.