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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Marc_C » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:15 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:I'm pleased to hear that this misleading recommendation is no longer operative.

That, also, is a grossly incorrect statement. *You* think that's the case because you keep changing your frame of reference to fit your narrative.
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Marc_C » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:59 pm

Kirkwood today....(text below image)
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From Coop Cooper's Facebook page:

Afternoon my friends,
Kirkwood will be closed for the day…
After assessing the mountain we need time and your patience while we begin to dig out…
The photo here was taken today while assessing the mountain after the last 48hrs and 9’ of snow…

If you have any questions on what we are doing out here, let me assure you that the first thing we need going to do is to dig out and prep for the day ahead… This has been a #Storm for the books and a return to what I remember when I first came to #KirkwoodMtn….

A few housecleaning items:

SR88 over the Carson Pass and Spur are closed with no estimated time of opening. Cal Trans is working hard to open the road, but they are dealing with just as much snow as we are… #HavePatience

Mountain priorities:
1. Snow safety
a. Front-side
b. Backside
c. Red Cliffs
2. Dig out the tops and bottom stations on all lifts
a. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10 & 11. Vista
3. Dig out all Villages
a. Red Cliffs
b. Timber Creek
c. Plaza (K-Bar)
4. Clear and plow all roads and parking

We will do all of the above as quickly, but as safely as possible… This is such a blessing and we want to get open, but again (caveat insert) this was one #GiantDump and we have a lot to do ahead my friends…

#TrustInKirkwoodMtnOperations #HugALifite #ThankAShovelingGuestServicesTeamMember
These folks will and do so much to open the mountain each and every day.

Stay Thirsty my friends,
Coop
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Tony Crocker » Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:18 pm

Utah is odd in this storm series too: http://opensnow.com/dailysnow/utah/post/7111
Notice how far down Alta is on the list. Some of this is the practice of many Utah areas measuring high within their terrain while Alta measures mid-mountain. However, that practice is usually only enough to bring the BCC areas about equal to Alta, with other areas still trailing. This time most of the storm activity has been on a SW flow vs. the usual NW flow that strongly favors LCC.
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Marc_C » Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:29 pm

According to someone from Sparks NV on Facebook, this is what the Sierra Nevada looks like today:

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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby EMSC » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:38 pm

Someone's pranking the Facebook: that pic was Feb of 2011...

https://weather.com/safety/winter/news/five-snowfall-extremes-20130103#/2
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby socal » Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:44 pm

Credit to http://mammothsnowman.com/

Looks like Mammoth was amazing today.

https://youtu.be/WvhisccWI_o
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Marc_C » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:13 am

EMSC wrote:Someone's pranking the Facebook: that pic was Feb of 2011...

https://weather.com/safety/winter/news/five-snowfall-extremes-20130103#/2

Thank you for sleuthing that one - I had my suspicions.
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Admin » Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:53 am

This storm cycle has left some pretty impressive results around Utah. (images via Wasatch Snow Forecast):

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(Park City Mountain Resort)

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(Western Uinta Mountains, off the Mirror Lake Highway)

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(the closest Snotel site to Powder Mountain)
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby EMSC » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:14 pm

Huge % of normal across much of the west for sure. My favorite for looking at the whole west at once is:

http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/gis/images/west_swepctnormal_update.png
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Though I'm not sure why it doesn't show the many more river basin's (with snowpack) that exist in California.

Pretty clear where he AR events have hit, and where they have not hit during January.
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:17 pm

Here's one with a bit more of CA:
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It still does not include the Owens Valley/L.A. Aqueduct drainage or the Central Valley south of the San Joaquin River (Kings and Kern River drainages).
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Admin » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:18 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:Image


You're trying to use the image BBcode to embed something that's not an image.
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Admin » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:34 am

A couple of quick facts from Utah:

1. Alta has now hit 300" season-to-date, even though the season is only 40% over.
2. Snowbasin's current base depth of 140" is their deepest snowpack at this point in the season in 37 years.
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Tony Crocker » Wed Jan 25, 2017 3:08 pm

Marc_C wrote: And they usually tend to happen mid-January. Sometimes there's an outlier in December or February, but over the past 12 years of direct experience, if there's one time period I don't recommend to visitors, it's from about Jan 5 to Jan 25, or thereabouts. That may or may not be true next season, but it is this year, and last,...

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
We must conclude that the locals want to keep days like last Saturday to themselves.

Alta received 107 inches of snow between Jan. 5 and Jan. 23. There were only 6 days it didn't snow, Jan. 6 and Jan. 14-18. :-({|= The longest dry spell this January will be the one coming up for the rest of the month.

But some people continue to insist that the majority of January snow comes at the beginning and end of the month and that the middle of the month is mysteriously more prone to dry spells.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
And while we're at it, the whole month of January is in inversion season so the inversions are also as likely in early and late January as mid-January.
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Marc_C » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:32 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:
Marc_C wrote: And they usually tend to happen mid-January. Sometimes there's an outlier in December or February, but over the past 12 years of direct experience, if there's one time period I don't recommend to visitors, it's from about Jan 5 to Jan 25, or thereabouts. That may or may not be true next season, but it is this year, and last,...

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
We must conclude that the locals want to keep days like last Saturday to themselves.

Alta received 107 inches of snow between Jan. 5 and Jan. 23. There were only 6 days it didn't snow, Jan. 6 and Jan. 14-18. :-({|= The longest dry spell this January will be the one coming up for the rest of the month.

But some people continue to insist that the majority of January snow comes at the beginning and end of the month and that the middle of the month is mysteriously more prone to dry spells.
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
And while we're at it, the whole month of January is in inversion season so the inversions are also as likely in early and late January as mid-January.

I see that your reading comprehension has hit a new low. Reread my quote you pulled, with the annotated bolding.
Us locals never said every year nor did we ever say mid-Jan is always a dry spell.
Quit trying to change and reframe what we actually said to fit your skewed narrative. It's obnoxious.
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Re: Western Weather 2016-17

Postby Admin » Wed Jan 25, 2017 4:49 pm

Marc_C wrote:It's obnoxious.


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