Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:27 am
Sbooker wrote:I think Landeck in Austria would be a great base with St Anton and the other Arlberg resorts, Ischgl, Serfaus, Solden and the glaciers of Stubai, Pitzal and Kaunternal less than an hours drive away.
Thu Dec 26, 2019 6:28 pm
Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:30 pm
sbooker wrote:I would be interested to hear Tony's opinion on pre-booking a Christmas skiing holiday for next year. I understand he'll suggest not to do so period
Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Tony Crocker wrote:sbooker wrote:I would be interested to hear Tony's opinion on pre-booking a Christmas skiing holiday for next year. I understand he'll suggest not to do so period
Christmas being one out of 3 weeks is not the same in terms of being a poor value as it being the only week. 3 week vacations to Europe (or any long distance destination) almost by definition have some degree of value by amortizing fixed travel costs over more ski days.
This is the worst Christmas in Whistler's history, the exception vs. the best overall early season track record for a large scale ski area in North America. Elsewhere in BC, yes it's a road warrior trip as areas are quite spread out. And the roads are not like US Interstate highways, so lengthy drives in the dark after skiing may not be a great idea. Whistler plus the Okanagan (Apex, Big White, Silver Star, maybe Sun Peaks) would be a viable 3+ week trip. Go to the Okanagan first as Whistler's lodging prices are jacked up for Christmas Week.
As far as Europe is concerned, I wouldn't discourage it for sbooker with two caveats.
1) Be aware you will just be skiing groomers in some seasons. I don't think that's deal breaker for sbooker and family, particularly given the scale of snowmaking coverage in places like much of Austria and the Dolomites plus the other amenities of skiing in the Alps.
2) The tougher part is whether you think you can choose resorts and book lodging last minute. I think only that first week right after Christmas will need to be booked in advance. I'll anticipate James and recommend the Sandhof in Lech (nice place with dinners included, good value, high snowfall reliability). I would be trying to reserve that NOW, as it's relatively small and probably has a lot of repeat customers.
Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:14 am
Sbooker wrote:I checked out the Sandhof and whilst it looks flash your idea of good value and mine may differ here a bit. Unless I am reading it wrong it looks to be about 690 Euro per night for my family.
Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:54 pm
jamesdeluxe wrote:Sbooker wrote:I checked out the Sandhof and whilst it looks flash your idea of good value and mine may differ here a bit. Unless I am reading it wrong it looks to be about 690 Euro per night for my family.
The reason Tony and I always recommend the Sandhof in Lech is their noteworthy off-peak deals, e.g. the January Sport Weeks at €1280 per person: seven nights lodging, half board (excellent/copious cuisine including a couple special dinner events), "wellness" offerings, and a six-day Arlberg pass (alone worth €337). It's usually an additional €100 or so for the last two weeks of January.
During the holidays and Euro/UK school breaks, it's every man for himself and they charge whatever the market can bear, which is what you're referring to.
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EMSC wrote:Vail will be much more crowded shortly once the generally insane up-charges over holiday weeks diminish to merely very expensive.
Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:36 pm
Tony Crocker wrote:Yes, too bad you didn't try Highlands. However Temerity and the hike to the bowl are very demanding. If you balked at the poma runs or Hanging Valley at Snowmass you would not have considered those. But if you go back, Highlands is probably the most scenic and worth a day of your time.EMSC wrote:Vail will be much more crowded shortly once the generally insane up-charges over holiday weeks diminish to merely very expensive.
I heard at Mammoth that last year holiday crowds were flat or down while the rest of the season was up. Most SoCal people probably bought base Ikon and avoided the holidays. Vail before Christmas I would not expect any crowd issues anyway. And Aspen/Snowmass is manageable even during peak periods.
Terrain wise I prefer Vail to Snowmass. You need to mix in Ajax and Highlands to change that view IMHO. Vail usually gets more snow but this year Vail and Aspen are running equal so far.
Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:07 am
sbooker wrote:Just doing a bit of light research for my days in Aspen/Snowmass which are quickly approaching. Is there any way to 'lap' the Hanging Valley area of Snowmass without taking two lifts. From looking at the trail map it appears that both Alpine Springs and High Alpine lifts are required to get to the top again?
sbooker wrote:It looks like the Headwall area can be accessed by just the one lift (Sheer Bliss)?
sbooker wrote:The couple of days I had there at New Year 16/17 were great but we spent most time in the Big Burn/Elk Camp and Campground areas. I don't even know if the Hanging Valley and Headwall areas were open at that time. I suspect they may not have been even though it was a pretty good start to the year.
Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:05 pm
Marc_C wrote:the problem isn't the damages but liability.
Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:03 pm