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CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial Day

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon May 04, 2020 9:08 pm

https://unofficialnetworks.com/2020/05/ ... orial-day/

Perhaps EMSC and I will get to use our Ikons at A-Basin yet!

May 23 was too late for Aspen's plan to keep Highlands available for reopening:
https://www.aspentimes.com/news/colorad ... e-opening/
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Re: Gov. Polis Says Ski Areas Could Be Open for Memorial Day

Postby tseeb » Tue May 05, 2020 8:37 pm

Seems like A-Basin is enough of a [censored] when they are one of two areas open. It would be hard to prevent crowds when they are only place open after everyone in CO has been closed for over 7 weeks. And since they are on a state highway that needs to remain open for trucks that can't use the tunnel, with a lot of places to park or drop people off, it would be much harder to prevent people from going there compared to Mt Baldy.

In other news Bachelor and Timberline could re-open. See https://www.wweek.com/outdoors/2020/05/ ... to-follow/ which does not have any details on reopening dates.
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CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial Day

Postby Tony Crocker » Wed May 06, 2020 10:39 am

Tseeb's link above is broken. This one works: https://katu.com/news/local/oregon-reop ... ing-resume

Timberline's update: https://www.timberlinelodge.com/coronavirus-updates Since Timberline operates most of the summer, I think it's safe to say it will reopen sometime in the next few weeks. Logistics are similar to Baldy: Daytrippable from Portland, so no need to offer services at Timberline Lodge.

Mt. Bachelor's page contains no reference to yesterday's governor announcement: https://www.mtbachelor.com/conditions-report/
Bachelor SHOULD reopen but given POWDR Corp's track record I would be pleasantly surprised if it happens. I'm guessing Tseeb would join me for a road trip there.

Anyone who reopens will need to do something similar to Baldy, not allow anyone into the parking lot without a season ticket or an advance reservation. A-Basin I suspect will require advance reservations for everyone because there are so many Ikon passholders.

Within a month I'm likely to take a road trip to Florida to visit Liz, who is taking care of her mother. With friends I can visit in Colorado and Kansas I could easily swing by A-Basin if the timing is right. But the earliest possible opening May 23 is normally well past the date Pali and Zuma are closed for wet snow instability. This will result in qualitatively less interesting skiing than my 3 days at Baldy. I'd be much more excited about Bachelor reopening.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby Sbooker » Wed May 06, 2020 4:37 pm

ABasin and others attempting to open highlights the difference between attitudes in the US and some other countries. It certainly appears your nation has a 'roll the sleeves up and get back to normal activities' mentality.
Here in Australia where we have a whopping 6875 confirmed covid cases and 97 covid deaths in a country as geographically large as the USA and we're still very much 'closed'. Some state government authorities here have suggested there is a low likelihood that our ski areas will open this season - which starts at the end of June and runs until the end of September.
I can't help but feel the right pace of the resumption of normal activities may lie between the two extremes that is Australia and the US. Time will tell I guess.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby snowave » Wed May 06, 2020 5:32 pm

I believe any ski area trying to re-open this year (including Baldy) are really just doing it as a publicity stunt. In Baldy's case, I think it was a combination of marketing and frustration with the system allowing 'golf courses to open, so why cant we'. There is very little profitability to re-open the lifts this time of year, especially with limited to no lodging and/services. And no, they're not really doing it "for the public".

*Timberline would be somewhat of an exception.

Opening A-Basin would be a big mistake, IMO. I think the risk far outweighs the attention they're attempting to get.

I'm not sure how I feel about the risks at Bachelor, but again... bottom line, this is more about the novelty than anything else.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby tseeb » Wed May 06, 2020 7:38 pm

I edited my post above to remove the link that no longer works. Also saw https://www.oregonlive.com/travel/2020/ ... -they.html which says Timberline may be able to open two lifts, but "Palmer lift — a summer-season mainstay — sustained excessive ice damage over the winter and isn’t yet ready to go." Some info and pictures from when it went down in February at https://snowbrains.com/palmer-chair-at- ... he-season/ - I didn't think it typically ran during winter.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu May 07, 2020 2:52 pm

Australia case counts and deaths are so low that it should be able to reopen with aggressive contact tracing and quarantine of those exposed. I think that’s what’s happening in NZ. You will also have to continue keeping us pesky foreigners out.

So I think Aussie and NZ ski areas could open, but they would be unavailable for Patrick to keep his streak going. :-(

The US is still way behind the curve with testing, so lots of guesswork here. I’m at Adam’s in San Diego now. Beaches here are open to walking, running, swimming, surfing but not to sitting/loitering in one place. Parking lots are mostly closed.

FYI last week I saw a news clip of Bondi Beach in Sydney reopening.

tseeb wrote:"Palmer lift — a summer-season mainstay — sustained excessive ice damage over the winter and isn’t yet ready to go."

Timberline at this time of year and later is close to a complete waste of time without Palmer. Timberline faces south and the lower lifts are relatively flat. Without salting, you would barely be able to move.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby Sbooker » Thu May 07, 2020 9:58 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:Australia case counts and deaths are so low that it should be able to reopen with aggressive contact tracing and quarantine of those exposed. I think that’s what’s happening in NZ. You will also have to continue keeping us pesky foreigners out.

So I think Aussie and NZ ski areas could open, but they would be unavailable for Patrick to keep his streak going. :-(

The US is still way behind the curve with testing, so lots of guesswork here. I’m at Adam’s in San Diego now. Beaches here are open to walking, running, swimming, surfing but not to sitting/loitering in one place. Parking lots are mostly closed.

FYI last week I saw a news clip of Bondi Beach in Sydney reopening.


I'll happily sub for Patrick if our hills open to the public. First priority is to see if our state borders open before I can book flights to Canberra or Sydney.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby tseeb » Tue May 12, 2020 8:46 pm

Timberline reopening Fri 5/15, but no details on which lifts. See https://www.timberlinelodge.com/coronavirus-updates
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby EMSC » Wed May 13, 2020 2:01 pm

Beartooth basin plans to open as planned...
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby Tony Crocker » Wed May 13, 2020 6:26 pm

EMSC wrote:Beartooth basin plans to open as planned...

May 30

I sent Timberline an e-mail inquiring about the Palmer lift.

As for A-Basin, I'm sure they will be ready with a plan if the state permits. But for now, here's the latest comment on the subject from a poster on Al's Blog:
The chance of reopening has moved from the 23rd and is now after the 25th, which is just in time to pass the long weekend, seems like the clock is being run out. Lucy is yanking the football again.

With a very average season in terms of snowfall, A-Basin wouldn't be that likely to get much past a week into June.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby tseeb » Thu May 14, 2020 2:14 pm

Timberline re-opening tomorrow, but it does sound like it will only be Stormin' Norman and Magic Mile lifts. They opened for reservations at 9 AM and according to post at https://www.pugski.com/threads/timberli ... ost-484137 they were all gone at 9:02.

Bachelor posted the following on Facebook:
Mt. Bachelor is thrilled to offer 2019/20 passholders (Outplay 365, Full Season, Midweek, 12-Day, 4-Day) an opportunity for spring turns before we wrap the winter season and open the mountain for uphill travel. Midweek passes will be active all 9 days. No day tickets are available.

What does a reopening look like? 9 days of snow sliding fun from Saturday, May 16 through Sunday, May 24. Limited to 500 PASSHOLDERS ONLY per day. Daily reservations and check-in prior to parking are required, no food & beverage or lodge services besides bathrooms (which we will clean hourly). Maximum two (2) guests for chair, facemasks, eyewear, and gloves are required in lift lines, boarding and on chairlifts - no exceptions. All guests are expected to follow new safety and physical distancing guidelines in place to maintain the safety of our staff, guests and community.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby Tony Crocker » Sat May 23, 2020 4:03 pm

The latest on A-Basin:
http://arapahoebasin.blogspot.com/2020/ ... -open.html
The sticking point is likely to be Summit County, not the governor. There may be clarification on May 27.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun May 24, 2020 5:19 pm

A-Basin is reopening May 27:
https://www.arapahoebasin.com/may27-reopening/
600 tickets per day
36 hour advance reservations, like Mt. Bachelor
Some day tickets will be sold for $99, like Mt. Baldy
Most reservations will be allocated for passholders, including Ikon.
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Re: CO & OR Governors Say Ski Areas Could Reopen by Memorial

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon May 25, 2020 5:02 pm

One clarification today on the allocation: 570 reservations for passholders, 30 day tickets per day.
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