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Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby Tony Crocker » Wed May 27, 2009 4:33 pm

The mountain budgeted for 5601 skiers/riders, and 8844 showed up, 58% more than expected!

Thankfully, Memorial Day weekend attendance at Mammoth has usually been strong, so I think it's very unlikely it will ever go the way of Mt. Bachelor. There are also other attractions that draw people to the Eastern Sierra for Memorial weekend: Mule Days in Bishop and it's the most common opening weekend for Tioga Pass with Yosemite waterfalls typically near their peak flow.

Really is true that its mostly pass holders as the season starts to wind down.

This may lend some insight into the new stated policy that there must be skiable snow to the Main Lodge for Mammoth to remain open. From my perspective, the top runs are most interesting and have the best snow late season, plus the ski area has to do more work to maintain strips to chair 1, but that's probably an opinion mostly shared by the pass holders. The day ticket buyers (marginal revenue) may be more likely to be intermediates who will be dissuaded if there are no lower runs open. I know that would be Andrew's opinion. He was quite pleased with the runs on chairs 1 & 2 and did not snowboard any higher up.

I could be wrong, but I thought that digital camera CCDs were prone to damage from anything more than momentary exposure to pointing directly at the sun.

The brightness of the sun's corona during totality is similar to a full moon.
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So the key issue is not too much light but too little. You need a tripod or else IS and not too slow a shutter speed. Ship movement will add an extra challenge. Thus most of the photography buffs will take their chances on land this July 22 in mainland China despite oppressive humidity, poorer weather odds and shorter totality. Pictures of a partially eclipsed sun do require a solar filter.
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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu May 28, 2009 12:33 am

Pics from the Rock Creek hike Saturday afternoon. Trailhead is at 10,100 feet, a 9 mile drive from 395 at Tom's Place. The hike is very gradual gaining maybe 400 vertical over a couple of miles with lakes every 1/4 to 1/2 mile.

On the trail we met these tele skiers who had camped Friday night and skied backcountry corn from 12,000 feet this morning.
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Stream approaching Heart Lake
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Heart Lake
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Unlike Yosemite NP, dogs are allowed up here. This chocolate lab could be Zach's uncle, about my dog's age (13). If I come back to Mammoth this season, I'll bring Samantha.
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Despite threatening weather I persisted another 1/4 mile to Box Lake. Streaks in the lower right are the wet snow falling. Snow line was just below the trailhead near Rock Creek lake at 9,600 feet.
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View of Box Lake and the Sierra beyond. The tele skiers skied the snowfields at distant right.
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With the weather I retreated to Heart Lake.
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Hiking back to the trailhead some of the snow is starting to stick on the ground.
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On the way back to Mammoth we drove a couple miles up McGee Creek. 2,000 feet lower than the Rock Creek trail, spring has already arrived here.
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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby EMSC » Thu May 28, 2009 12:01 pm

Canon SX10 IS


Very similar to Admin's and my cameras in size. I personally use this bag to carry for easy & quick access, though it does swing a bit when skiing http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000P3X7UM?tag=neocamera-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B000P3X7UM&adid=1YN1XCFGVZ2YZT8BZXYW&.

I always assumed/guessed that the Bayer filter on the CCD sensor of your old camera got slightly dislodged somehow (the filter has 2x the green filters/pixels than red or blue). Digital pics are an interpolation of the colors provided by the filtering on each pixel and nearby pixels. If you're interested http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter
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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby skibum4ever » Thu May 28, 2009 6:41 pm

Thanks for the figures on lift tickets and passes for the weekend, snowboard247. We always wonder how much money Mammoth is making, esp. on a weekday like Tues. or Weds. We thought yesterday was the greatest with few people to "mess up" the snow. We skied Cornice several times when we were the only 2 people on it. And Mammoth was doing a good job "salting" as well. We will be back in about a week. I just wish it would be a little bit cooler for a while to save the snow. :-({|=
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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby Tony Crocker » Fri May 29, 2009 1:16 am

We thought yesterday was the greatest with few people to "mess up" the snow.

For the groomers, Monday of Memorial weekend is often the best day due to lower skier traffic. But in general I prefer the holiday weekend in this case because more lifts operate, specifically both gondola 2 and 23. Chairs 4 & 5 ran Memorial weekend 2003 (5 also in 2005 and 2006), and chairs 10-14 in 1998. The snow also gets more "messed up" when more people are skiing fewer runs. But the ungroomed skiing with good surfaces was still expansive last weekend from that well-consolidated/windpacked storm of early May. So I spent very little time in "messed up" snow.
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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby snowboard247 » Fri May 29, 2009 3:43 pm

lots of terrain is starting to sun cup now, as experienced today.
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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby Harvey44 » Mon Jul 13, 2009 6:17 pm

snowboard247 wrote:lots of terrain is starting to sun cup now, as experienced today.


Can someone explain sun cupping and why it is bad? I've gathered that it happens to old snow after multiple freeze/thaw cycles? It's referenced frequently and I'd like to know. :-D

Hey for once I did try the search function.

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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby Admin » Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:28 pm

Sun cups are a product of the sun's strong rays, so their development is more pronounced in late spring and summer. In essence the heat of the sun melts the surface of the snow. That little bit of water develops small pools that eat the snow faster under the pools. It then firms up when the sun goes down and starts all over again the next day. After a while it begins to resemble the dimpled skin of a golf ball. The ridges between the cups never seem to soften sufficiently, so you're left with an incredibly rough surface upon which very little ski is in contact with snow at any time.

Sun cups suck.

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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby Harvey44 » Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:44 am

Thank you.

Once a slope is sun cupped...does it stay that way if it doesn't get new snow?
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Re: Mammoth, May 23-25, 2009

Postby Admin » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:50 am

Harvey44 wrote:Thank you.

Once a slope is sun cupped...does it stay that way if it doesn't get new snow?


Not always, but it tends to because the sun just gets stronger each day.
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