Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:59 am
Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:28 am
Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:08 am
Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:48 am
EMSC wrote:Not just to pick on my own home resort, I have to wonder how much over exaggeration there is at many, many more resorts all over the world.
Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:16 pm
I assume that would be part of the standardisation project -- to decide whether to include ski routes across the board in the km count. It obviously varies from resort to resort. Anecdotally, all three Austrian regions I visited (Arlberg, Ischgl, Kitzbuehl) had them marked both on the hill and on the map; however, as the Ski and Snowboard Worldwide people have complained for years, they mean different things at each resort and can lead lower-level skiers into places they have no business being. The Portes du Soleil marked them on the hill, but not on the map.Tony Crocker wrote:I wonder if the yellow ungroomed "skiroutes" are counted in those km totals. How common is it for Euro ski areas to mark ungroomed skiroutes on trail maps?
I've seen East Coast areas count only the acreage of their groomed trails (no off-piste), but never the length.EMSC wrote:I note that some Eastern NA resorts like to publish miles of trails numbers too.
Agreed. This ^^^ should be Tony's next project for bestsnow.net: determining the legit acreage at western ski areas (with indecipherable Excel tables as an added bonus).Marc_C wrote:Total acreage is also pretty easily calculated, but that number is always skewed since it includes all the unskiable acreage as well.
Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:26 pm
jamesdeluxe wrote:EMSC wrote:
I note that some Eastern NA resorts like to publish miles of trails numbers too.
I've seen East Coast areas count only the acreage of their groomed trails (no off-piste), but never the length.
Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:27 pm
Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:53 pm
jamesdeluxe wrote:This ^^^ should be Tony's next project for bestsnow.net: determining the legit acreage at western ski areas
Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:08 pm
Tony Crocker wrote:I've said before that an "adjusted acreage" is the best measure of ski area size. The main discussion was with respect to Stowe, which counts 500 acres of trail acreage but JSpin determined from a Google map that it has 2,500 acres boundary to boundary. My opinion is that an "adjusted acreage" for Stowe should be something like 1,500.
Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:15 am
Marc_C wrote:I seem to recall that back in the 90's when Stowe instituted their "boundary to boundary" ski policy, they quoted 1200 acres for skiable terrain.
Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:21 pm
Tue Sep 29, 2015 7:45 pm
jamesdeluxe wrote:I should have seen this coming down Broadway -- the German cartographer who wrote the original report about Euro resorts padding their figures has apparently gone into business as an independent certifier of piste length.
Wed Sep 30, 2015 8:32 am
Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:42 pm
http://www.pistelength.com/seal-of-approval.html wrote:Length of pistes, ski routes and catwalks as well as parks, fun slopes etc.
Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:03 pm