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New Zealand ski areas will be opening on normal schedule and travel within NZ will be permitted to reach them, fairly essential for Queenstown and Wanaka, which have small local population bases. North Island and Canterbury areas are probably viable with daytrip skiers. New Zealand has a shot for full eradication of COVID-19 if remaining isolated. Australia numbers are very good too, so that raises the prospect of travel between the two countries at some point.
Tony Crocker wrote:How can internal state border closures possibly be enforced? Will you be arrested in NSW for driving a car with Queensland plates?
Tony Crocker wrote:It seems that the issue with Queensland is they don't want NSW and Victoria residents coming for winter beach vacations yet.
New Zealand ski areas will be opening on normal schedule and travel within NZ will be permitted to reach them, fairly essential for Queenstown and Wanaka, which have small local population bases. North Island and Canterbury areas are probably viable with daytrip skiers. New Zealand has a shot for full eradication of COVID-19 if remaining isolated. Australia numbers are very good too, so that raises the prospect of travel between the two countries at some point.
Tony Crocker wrote:Canada's worst province, Quebec, has deaths of 450 per M population.
Tony Crocker wrote:With so few cases, is Australia doing contact tracing? Your Queensland article about made comments about "community spread" in NSW and Victoria. Surely they can contact trace 477 active cases? NZ's original lockdown was extremely strict, but it has been doing contact tracing and opening up internally now.
Thredbo is optimistic about opening but will not open for an early June holiday weekend.
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From what I know, skiing would nearly always be a marginal WROD that early in the season, sort of like Thanksgiving here.
So internal travel within NSW is now permitted, including hotel reservations?
Tony Crocker wrote:All skiing must be considered in regional context. Northeast day tickets are not particularly cheap. The cheapest tickets are in low population density regions unless there is big tourist infrastructure that encourages casual as well as addicted skiers to venture far from home.
The Aussie ski areas are driveable from Oz' two biggest metro areas. That creates a large demand relative to limited supply IMHO. So yes a good analogy to the US Northeast in that regard.
I assume that 90 inches is at Thredbo's base. The Spencer's Creek data implies ~200 inches at ~2,000 meters. If 90 is true that implies a lot of rain to me. There's a reason why all the other Aussie areas have bases around 5,000 and shorter verticals going up from there.
Given that Thredbo requires flying from Brisbane I would look to New Zealand. Snow reliability is only marginally better but terrain quality can be a lot better. And NZ is cheaper once you get there.
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