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snowboard boot liners

Postby hamdog » Sat Jan 22, 2005 7:10 pm

FTO users and guests,
(looking for some feedback)

so i'm looking for some liners with more support. i'm riding some Burton
Rulers, size 12, 03-04(last years). they're almost exactly a year old and
feel like sneakers. i've emailed Burton about this and have asked them if
i could purchase some liners from another boot that are a bit stiffer (Ion
and Driver liners) that i might be able to slide into my Ruler outter shells
to get the support i need without having to buy new boots all together.
this was a few days ago and i haven't heard back from them as of yet.

how about ski boot liners? mountaineering boot liners? any other boot
that you might know of that might give me the support i'm looking for.
are liners for these boots even available?

see, some new boots will cost me $279 at the very least and i'm rather
unsatisfied that my Rulers ride the way they do now. good thing i got the
hookup on them and only paid 125 for em. :wink:

i'm still waiting for a boot to come out that has a snowboard boot
softshell, mountaineering sole(crampon compatable), and some sort of
supportive liner that will last. i don't think that mountaineering boots
(plastic ones) would ride all that well strapped into a snowboard, and i'm
not going the route of plate bindings. hell no :!: plus there way to expensive.

ANY SUGGESTIONS? thanks
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re: snowboard boot liners

Postby hamdog » Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:45 am

something like this would work. don't ya think? Scarpa liners

disclaimer: pic is from splitboard.com. boots are some swiss dudes or something. ???
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re: snowboard boot liners

Postby Chromer » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:25 am

Intuition thermoformable liners. I use 'em in everything.

There are two types - there are older ones made from a softish foam, and newer ones made from a much stiffer foam. Sounds like you want the stiff ones.

Quite often they show up on Ebay for about $25. Best money I ever spent on my boots.

What is truly awesome is that you can re-mold them, so when they pack out after a couple seasons you re-bake them and it's like having brand-new boots.

Video on baking them here:

http://www.telemarktips.com/video/thermofit.wmv (5.5MB)

Written instructions here:

http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/shop/a ... icles_id=3

This is for tele boots, but snowboard boots will be the same procedure.
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Re: re: snowboard boot liners

Postby JimG. » Tue Jan 25, 2005 10:45 am

Chromer wrote:thermoformable liners. I use 'em in everything.


I have the stiffer versions in my Garmont AT boots...not only are these the best fitting and warmest boots I have ever owned, the stiffness of the liner really increases performance.

The liners can be reheated 5-6 times before losing their integrity, so it is true that they can be reheated and refitted as needed. Be careful not to heat them too much (120 degrees F), and use toe spacers unless you like your boots super tight.

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re: snowboard boot liners

Postby hamdog » Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:48 am

nice! thanks fella's. what took ya so long? i've found three types. they
all retail about $150 (give or take 10). i'll keep an eye out on ebay. also
have to see if any of the shops around here carry them and can mold them.

here's the link to the three that i found. the G-fit one is the stiffest i guess.
http://www.marmotmountain.com/MMWmain.a ... ode=xcskis

these liners and some smartfeet footbeds (or some other good ones) and i'll be set. cheers!

still haven't heard back from burton. not betting on it either.
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Re: re: snowboard boot liners

Postby JimG. » Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:15 pm

hamdog wrote:nice! thanks fella's. what took ya so long?


Was in a haze yesterday recovering from POW bliss this weekend, see thread on Hunter 1/22-23/05.

I have the G-fits, you'll like 'em.
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re: snowboard boot liners

Postby hamdog » Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:21 pm

ok. i'm leaning towards trying out some AT boots. been looking on ebay
and found some old ones. not to sure i want to go that route.

how about this silly idea i came up with. they will kind of be like AT
boots. i would use them with my strap snowboard bindings.

good idea, or bad idea?

ice climbing boot shells and a stiff Thermoflex G-fit liner(or other).
would a snowboard liner even fit into an ice climbing boot?

thoughts? ............ :roll:
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Re: re: snowboard boot liners

Postby Admin » Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:57 am

Chromer wrote:Video on baking them here:

http://www.telemarktips.com/video/thermofit.wmv (5.5MB)

Written instructions here:

http://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/shop/a ... icles_id=3


Advice on how to ruin them within minutes:

(Contact Marc Guido)

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Re: re: snowboard boot liners

Postby JimG. » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:43 am

hamdog wrote:ok. i'm leaning towards trying out some AT boots. been looking on ebay
and found some old ones. not to sure i want to go that route.

how about this silly idea i came up with. they will kind of be like AT
boots. i would use them with my strap snowboard bindings.

good idea, or bad idea?

ice climbing boot shells and a stiff Thermoflex G-fit liner(or other).
would a snowboard liner even fit into an ice climbing boot?

thoughts? ............ :roll:


AT boots might be the ticket for you, but wouldn't you have to use plate bindings with them? Sounds like you don't want to do that. Can't advise you on the ice climbing boots. What about those splitboard boots you posted a pic of? The thermoform liners would fit those.
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re: snowboard boot liners

Postby hamdog » Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:51 am

those boots were a custom deal. the pic was posted on splitboard.com.
the guy said it cost him 285 swiss franks($235.67 US dollars) to get the vibram soles done.
there's only one shoemaker guy that does that in Switzerland. (he
doesn't speak any english) his website: http://www.rada.ch ........incase
anyone's interested in this. i'm considering it.

i think the ice climbing shell idea would not work though, due to the fact
that the shells don't go up high enough for support. looks like the G-fits
in my own burton shells will be the answer. then look into shipping them
to Switzerland this summer for some vibram soles. once these boots
wear out i should have saved up enough for some AT boots. they're like
500 american dollars! they better bake my liners for free.......wherever i
get them......when/if i get them. a few years maybe.
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Re: re: snowboard boot liners

Postby JimG. » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:10 am

hamdog wrote:AT boots. they're like
500 american dollars! they better bake my liners for free.......wherever i
get them......when/if i get them. a few years maybe.


Ya, AT gear ain't cheap. The Garmonts cost me just shy of $500 with a pro-form discount! But they were totally worth it. Best fitting, most comfortable boots I've ever owned. Half the weight of alpine ski boots, and very warm too. Yet they perform like my old Technica's; they even allow me to bite hard on bulletproof ice!

Like I said, I'll never go back again.
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re: snowboard boot liners

Postby Jay Suds » Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:28 pm

Blech, I paid $629 for mine, online. I got them baked / fitted for free, well, only had to pony up a 12-pack. I am just getting used to my AT setup ... the fact that everything weighs so little really threw my body for a loop the first couple of days on the gear.
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re: snowboard boot liners

Postby Chromer » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:14 pm

Take a look at "touring" telemark boots. The shell is a softer plastic that you can flex from side to side a bit. Vibram sole and they'll take some crampons too (needs a wide toe wire). Just grind down the duck-bill with a belt sander or a dremel...

Actually, I have some Garmot Estremo boots you can have *really* cheap if you happen to have size 8 feet. If you do I'll get you a pic of them...
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re: snowboard boot liners

Postby hamdog » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:36 pm

thanks for the tips Chromer. i'm a size 12 though.
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