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re: Who's in this week?

Postby jamesdeluxe » Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:32 pm

I put away the equipment last weekend, but I kept the flame burning yesterday by buying the wife fat skis on ebay for her upcoming birthday: 2006-07 Rossi B4s still in the plastic. I took the bindings off an old pair of skis (that will be part of an Adirondack ski chair I'm building on Sunday) and will have them mounted next week so they'll be all ready for the big unveiling on May 2.

Oh, I just got back from playing my first round of golf this season -- and I was crushing the ball 8) -- I guess it really is over for this ECer.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby skimore » Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:25 pm

jamesdeluxe wrote:I put away the equipment last weekend, but I kept the flame burning yesterday by buying the wife fat skis on ebay for her upcoming birthday: 2006-07 Rossi B4s still in the plastic. I took the bindings off an old pair of skis (that will be part of an Adirondack ski chair I'm building on Sunday) and will have them mounted next week so they'll be all ready for the big unveiling on May 2.


I had a pair of those I just sent back this year. Got done with a run and had to walk a bit to get back. When I took them off and put them together one was bent. I don't even recall hitting anything. That's fourth pair of Rossi's that have broke on me. The other 3 completely. I'm done with them.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby jamesdeluxe » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:18 pm

Harvey44 wrote:Golf is for those too old to ski. :wink:


Where I grew up, skiing was for the rich kids. The rest of us played hockey. I've been flogging for 37 years, skiing for seven.

Thems the facts, jack.

skimore wrote: That's fourth pair of Rossi's that have broke on me. The other 3 completely. I'm done with them.


I've heard that before (kinda like the Marker early release problem), but something tells me my wife is not quite as aggressive a skier as you.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby Patrick » Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:29 pm

jamesdeluxe wrote:Where I grew up, skiing was for the rich kids. The rest of us played hockey. I've been flogging for 37 years, skiing for seven.


ONLY 7 years, wow!!! I'm impressed by your dedication. =D>


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skimore wrote: That's fourth pair of Rossi's that have broke on me. The other 3 completely. I'm done with them.


I've heard that before (kinda like the Marker early release problem), but something tells me my wife is not quite as aggressive a skier as you.


I loved Rossignol from the mid 80s to early 90s and I learn to love them again a few years ago. Granted, not everyone like those skis, but I love them.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby jamesdeluxe » Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:22 am

Patrick wrote: I loved Rossignol from the mid 80s to early 90s and I learn to love them again a few years ago. Granted, not everyone like those skis, but I love them.


That's right, Patrick skis his B1s 50+ days a year with no complaints.

For the record, this purchase is our first venture outside the world of the "full metal jacket" ski. Yes, wifey and I are Volant hackers. Besides, I'm not good enough to distinguish the difference between specific ski brands.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby Spensar » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:28 am

jamesdeluxe wrote:
Harvey44 wrote:
Where I grew up, skiing was for the rich kids. The rest of us played hockey.


Skiing was $$$ when I was a kid too. Times change though. For what it costs my son to play hockey, I can get annual passes for 3 of us at Tremblant, and cover weekly gas; or explore Quebec City and the Northeast US hills every week or two. I've offered up that alternative for 5 years but he loves to play though and isn't biting.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby Patrick » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:51 am

jamesdeluxe wrote:That's right, Patrick skis his B1s 50+ days a year with no complaints.


Not close to 50/year. more like 20-25 times. :shock: Other skis are some Atomic race skis (GS & Slalom) and the Rossi B3s.

Well, the B1 aren't the greatest, but are fun to ski if you don't need a high performance ski.
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re: Who's in this week?

Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:18 pm

Yes, wifey and I are Volant hackers.
Is that what they call us? 188cm Power Ti was my everyday ski from 1999 through January 2007, and remains my backup ski. The 180cm Chubb has been used for nearly all powder days since 1997, but will probably be confined to Baldy in the future since I bought the demo Mantras at Alta last February.

Besides, I'm not good enough to distinguish the difference between specific ski brands.
I strongly disagree with this statement. Some skis work better for certain styles of skier, the polarized opinion about Volants being an excellent example. It's the Patricks of the world who can get on any old ski in a variety of conditions and still make them work well.
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re: Who's in this week?

Postby EMSC » Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:56 pm

who can get on any old ski in a variety of conditions and still make them work well.


Maybe, but there definitely ones that even if you can make them turn, you don't want to be skiing on for your style.

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Besides, I'm not good enough to distinguish the difference between specific ski brands.
I strongly disagree with this statement.


Tony is correct for nearly all but beginners. FWIW, at a certain level and frequency of skiing you can start to tell the difference in what binding is on what ski, whether the binding is mounted properly for CG (center of gravity), etc...
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby Admin » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:04 pm

EMSC wrote:Tony is correct for nearly all but beginners.


The fact that my wife could tell a difference between skis she demoed last week confirms Tony's assertion. She's a low intermediate. And it wasn't personal bias, either -- the ones that she wanted to like, she didn't.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby jamesdeluxe » Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:48 pm

Admin wrote: The fact that my wife could tell a difference between skis she demoed last week confirms Tony's assertion.


Sorry, poor communication. I meant to say that I can't do a blind taste test and tell you "those are too stiff, those are noodly, those are too damp, etc."... it's more along the lines of "I like those, I don't like those."

As for the Volant Hackers line, sorry... I had my TGR hat on. They'd call you a fairy for skiing any Volants other than a Spatula. If I were doing lots of earned turns, I'd obviously not want to bring the full metal jackets, as they aren't exactly light.

Below is a pic -- I may have posted it before -- of our skis circa Nov 2006. This will only mean something to a Volant connaisseur like Tony, but I've since sold the 185 Machetes (too long for me). My main skis for the past two seasons have been the V2 Chubbs for powder, the Gravitys for on-piste, and the older Chubbs for in between. My wife's are the 150 Vertexes. The three older pairs (Power Ls, Powers, and SuperTis) will be hack-sawed this weekend into a chair.

Apologies to Harvey44 for hijacking his thread. Feel free to break this stuff out in the general forum.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby Harvey44 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:46 pm

jamesdeluxe wrote:Apologies to Harvey44 for hijacking his thread.


Hey I'm just proud to have fathered a thread that made it to two pages. I can't remember ever getting more than four responses.

James - I assume you'll post a pic of this much heralded accoutrement de la vie de luxe, when it is complete.

Along the lines of this hijack - if anyone can connect me with someone who really knows teleboards, I'm looking for a new pair with more float and snap. Tele demos are hard to come by.
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re: Who's in this week?

Postby Admin » Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:57 pm

I'll perpetuate the hijack.

You're skiing at the wrong places, then. Alta, for example, has two tele/AT demo days annually (Dec. & Apr.) and the Alta Ski Shop has a wide assortment of demos mounted tele and AT. I'm skiing many of the same skis you are, for tele-specific and AT-specific skis are usually one and the same and I, too, gravitate toward snappier skis. Look at the G3 Reverend or, for a narrower waist on groomers, the Barron or Ticket. I like the Black Diamond Verdict for a powder skis, or the Havoc for groomers.
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re: Who's in this week?

Postby Patrick » Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:29 pm

Harvey,

I believe there are maybe 1-2 tele demo days at Mad, which is a shorter drive than Alta.
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Re: re: Who's in this week?

Postby Harvey44 » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:15 pm

Admin wrote:You're skiing at the wrong places, then. Alta, for example, has two tele/AT demo days annually (Dec. & Apr.) and the Alta Ski Shop has a wide assortment of demos mounted tele and AT. I'm skiing many of the same skis you are, for tele-specific and AT-specific skis are usually one and the same and I, too, gravitate toward snappier skis. Look at the G3 Reverend or, for a narrower waist on groomers, the Barron or Ticket. I like the Black Diamond Verdict for a powder skis, or the Havoc for groomers.


I know tele demos are out there. Gore had 4 demos this year. 3 were alpine on Fridays and Saturdays. The tele demo was on a Tuesday (I think) with very little notice. As MadPat said ...Mad would be a logical choice. And I should get there for religious reasons too. :wink:

I really like the idea of only using one ski for a lot of reasons. I probably own 6 or 8 pairs but only use two...one for lift service, and longer skinny skis for backcountry/camping.

I'm currently on World Pistes (80mm) and would like to go fatter...not sure if the Reverend (93mm) would be too much of a jump. Last season I went from snappy 70mm skis (TM22s) to the WPs... and it did change everything - basically got me out of the intermediate zone, or at least the intermediate terrain.

I'd like just a bit more float and the snap to have some fun on groomers. Also...don't want any twin tips. I never go backwards and to me Twins are just added weight without the full benefits of extra length.

I have some G3 bindings and they are good solid gear for sure. I may take a flyer on the Revs and see what happens. Any more input is welcome.
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