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Re: Volkl AC50 in Powder?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:48 am
by Tony Crocker
Not gone to argue with ice's personal preferences, BUT his fitness and ability level are likely far above the average even for FTO, not to mention inquiries coming from St. Louis. The vast majority of skiers will find life is easier with at least 2 pair of skis.
i love sidecut and a lot of it for everything including pow and steeps.

Also personal preference. Recall from other threads that I have the late Shane McConkey on my side in this debate.

Re: Volkl AC50 in Powder?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:32 pm
by Bluebird Day
I remember the old? Volkl Snow Ranger. That was considered the radical powder ski of the times (1990's). Now, anything under 100mm is considered a fence slat. I watched a great ski film-doc called Steep a few weeks ago and noted that some of the skiers featured in the film where skiing on skinny GS skis and Salomon rear entries and thought "how would these guys have skied that line on a pair of Dynastar Pro XXLs, etc.?". It's kind of like saying, "how would Ben Hogan play golf now with an oversized driver and perimeter weighted clubs?" What's the industry going to throw at us next? :brick:

Re: Volkl AC50 in Powder?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:35 pm
by Acidchrist
It's not all about dimensions as admin said. Flex and camber really come into play, especially with the ac50. The 50 is a STIFF ski. lots of centrifugal force or just sheer weight needs to be applied to "decamber" that ski. When a ski is cambered, the tip and tail point DOWN, hence the submarine effect. It's easy to decamber that stiff ski on hard pack by simply laying'em over and skiing fast. That's why pow skis TYPICALLY are softer; they get in that decambered position quickly and easily. Sooooo, you can have a RELATIVELY fat or fatter ski like the Dynastar LP, which is around 100mm underfoot in fact behave like a submarine. Hey, it's a STIFF ski. A "real" volkl explosive (not the CMH type) will do the same thing...

Re: Volkl AC50 in Powder?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:38 pm
by Admin
Acidchrist wrote:A "real" volkl explosive (not the CMH type) will do the same thing...


Despite the Explosiv label, the CMH edition was disguised Mantra prototype.

Re: Volkl AC50 in Powder?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:36 am
by pkerr
Acidchrist wrote:It's not all about dimensions as admin said. Flex and camber really come into play, especially with the ac50. The 50 is a STIFF ski. lots of centrifugal force or just sheer weight needs to be applied to "decamber" that ski. When a ski is cambered, the tip and tail point DOWN, hence the submarine effect. It's easy to decamber that stiff ski on hard pack by simply laying'em over and skiing fast. That's why pow skis TYPICALLY are softer; they get in that decambered position quickly and easily. Sooooo, you can have a RELATIVELY fat or fatter ski like the Dynastar LP, which is around 100mm underfoot in fact behave like a submarine. Hey, it's a STIFF ski. A "real" volkl explosive (not the CMH type) will do the same thing...

Ahhhh.... much more clearer now as to why it's not JUST width.
Thanks!

Re: Volkl AC50 in Powder?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:43 am
by Acidchrist
Glad that helped. That was my first (and probably last) reasonable post to this forum...you caught me in a fleeting moment of clarity. Admin can attest to this...

Re: Volkl AC50 in Powder?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:55 am
by pkerr
Acidchrist wrote:Glad that helped. That was my first (and probably last) reasonable post to this forum...you caught me in a fleeting moment of clarity. Admin can attest to this...

I can tell from your avatar! Have a GREAT winter!