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Admin wrote:Personally I consider an 85mm-waisted ski to be a submarine.
pkerr wrote:Admin wrote:Personally I consider an 85mm-waisted ski to be a submarine.
Well yeah O.K. if you never ski in bounds and are a hip deep, back country, don't get out of bed unless there is at least a foot of fresh kind of skier, it would be.
Admin wrote:pkerr wrote:Admin wrote:Personally I consider an 85mm-waisted ski to be a submarine.
Well yeah O.K. if you never ski in bounds and are a hip deep, back country, don't get out of bed unless there is at least a foot of fresh kind of skier, it would be.
Or if you're going to occasionally ski that foot of snow in-bounds on something groomed beneath the new snow, it will be the same submarine.
Simply stated, the 85mm waist just doesn't provide a sufficient platform to stand on and float. Now, that's not to say that it can't be done -- of course it can, we all did it for decades -- but why make things more difficult and unpleasant than they have to be?
Float in powder is a product of several factors, not the least of which is waist. You also have to consider the ski's flex (particularly in the forebody), shovel dimensions (to initiate the floatation), sidecut, etc. Keep in mind that a good groomer ski and a good powder ski are going to be on the opposite ends of the continuum, such that you won't find a ski that does both well.
Admin wrote:If that's the case then don't worry about the floatation - just enjoy the AC50s and rent powder sticks when you happen to luck out.
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Heck a few years ago 85 would be considered a fat boy. Now it's the new mid fat.
Keep in mind that a good groomer ski and a good powder ski are going to be on the opposite ends of the continuum, such that you won't find a ski that does both well.
rent powder sticks when you happen to luck out.
remember that the OP lives in St Louis.
icelanticskier wrote:85 is fine. i have one pair of skis and one pair only for all of my east/west, inbounds/bc and it works great for everything and i ski over 100 days a year. atomic rt 86
128-86-114. i love sidecut and a lot of it for everything including pow and steeps. my last skis were 140-105-130 and i have no less fun in the pow on my atomics, plus i get more face shots now! heck, my xc rig rips it in the pow.
rog
rfarren wrote:icelanticskier wrote:85 is fine. i have one pair of skis and one pair only for all of my east/west, inbounds/bc and it works great for everything and i ski over 100 days a year. atomic rt 86
128-86-114. i love sidecut and a lot of it for everything including pow and steeps. my last skis were 140-105-130 and i have no less fun in the pow on my atomics, plus i get more face shots now! heck, my xc rig rips it in the pow.
rog
I thought you were on the nomads?
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