OSAMA is Dead

[longshanks]

Osama is Dead...Obama says so...only took 10 years to find him and flush him out. Maybe he got restless and went out for a pizza and some beers, or maybe somebody dropped a dime on him. Will the next Bad Guy please step up and assume the position of America's most wanted...
I wonder if OBL was a Skier or Boarder in his spare time?

[Donald_Trump]

I want to see his death certificate!!!

[soulskier]

I'd love to convert the Taliban into the Teleban.

[jamesdeluxe]

We're still waiting for the FTO right-wing contingent to publicly eat a meal of well-cooked crow on this one.

[Admin]

We're still waiting for the FTO right-wing contingent to publicly eat a meal of well-cooked crow on this one.

Ummmmm...what for exactly? I'm waiting for the FTO left-wing contingent to publicly eat a meal of well-cooked crow over the subject of coerced interrogations.

[Tony Crocker]

OK, I'll bite.

We will never know whether and how much the "coerced interrogations" contributed to finding Osama. My gut reaction is that it was probably worth doing to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. However I believe that decision should be made explicitly at the presidential level and should have been applied to a mere handful of unquestionably complicit top level people like KSM. The Bush 2 administration made it a matter of routine policy, leading to travesties like Abu Ghraib and thus inflicted grave political damage upon the reputation of the U.S. as a result. That damage leads to lack of cooperation from countries/sources that might have helped us and allows Islamic militants to argue, "They are no different from us" and perhaps to recruit more effectively.

In WWII we did a good job of retaining the moral high ground vs. Germany and Japan. I've read that the British developed subtle psychological interrogation techniques that were very effective in gaining valuable info from German prisoners, probably more effective than the crude methods used by the Nazis.

The "War on Terror" has military and diplomatic components and both are crucial. The Bush 2 administration thought only the former was needed, while Jimmy Carter is the perfect example of the opposite view. We need to have a foreign policy that can walk and chew gum at the same time. The events of the past week are a good sign that Obama is not the reincarnation of Carter.

[Staley]

I think there's been some proof that torture gets you answers, but not correct ones. Plus, it takes away our moral high ground, so why do it? There must be better methods of interrogation.

[jamesdeluxe]

I agree with Tony's comment.

Another thing I'd worry about is whether using "enhanced interrogation techniques" (LOL, I think I heard Cheney use that expression recently) leads to our people getting tuned up in a similar fashion when they're captured by unfriendlies.

[Admin]

They don't waterboard, they behead.

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[BigSpencer]

Osama is Dead...Obama says so...only took 10 years to find him and flush him out. Maybe he got restless and went out for a pizza and some beers, or maybe somebody dropped a dime on him. Will the next Bad Guy please step up and assume the position of America's most wanted...

Would it come as a surprise to many people on the far Right...if it were to be found that one of Karzei's(sp?) boys was his pizza delivery boy.... Everyone really involved was from Saudi Arabia and had a US passport...and every plane came from a US airport.

Still confused about what's really so special about Iraq and Afghanistan....they're almost as important as the war on drugs

[longshanks]

Osama is Dead...Obama says so...only took 10 years to find him and flush him out. Maybe he got restless and went out for a pizza and some beers, or maybe somebody dropped a dime on him. Will the next Bad Guy please step up and assume the position of America's most wanted...

Would it come as a surprise to many people on the far Right...if it were to be found that one of Karzei's(sp?) boys was his pizza delivery boy.... Everyone really involved was from Saudi Arabia and had a US passport...and every plane came from a US airport.

Still confused about what's really so special about Iraq and Afghanistan....they're almost as important as the war on drugs

The Invasion of those 2 Countries, like the events of 911 are just cogs in the wheel of American Imperialism

[rfarren]

Osama is Dead...Obama says so...only took 10 years to find him and flush him out. Maybe he got restless and went out for a pizza and some beers, or maybe somebody dropped a dime on him. Will the next Bad Guy please step up and assume the position of America's most wanted...

Would it come as a surprise to many people on the far Right...if it were to be found that one of Karzei's(sp?) boys was his pizza delivery boy.... Everyone really involved was from Saudi Arabia and had a US passport...and every plane came from a US airport.

Still confused about what's really so special about Iraq and Afghanistan....they're almost as important as the war on drugs

The Invasion of those 2 Countries, like the events of 911 are just cogs in the wheel of American Imperialism

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[BigSpencer]

....Agree...guys just gotta move their families away from the dictators, even though Washington's been supporting em'. Our biggest mistake and threat to the American public.