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Western Weather 2017-18

Postby Admin » Wed Sep 20, 2017 6:14 pm

I guess with advisories like this, it's time to start a new thread!
https://inws.ncep.noaa.gov/a/a.php?i=16097482
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:20 pm

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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby EMSC » Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:00 pm

Didn't even notice the new season's weather thread till today, lol.

Cold fall. Several snow storms in the mtns so far. Super cold from last night through Tues morning (temps in the teens at altitude).

I expect A-Basin to open later this week. Loveland is much iffier; they refuse to cover a blue trail to start out, which would be dramatically shorter in length and thus much less snow making than the ridiculously long green and flat stuff they open with. So I expect them to get 80% of the way there just as the temps warm up barely too much for more snowmaking and push their opening off by days or even a week+. It's just never made any sense to open the way Loveland does, IMO.

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Even the flatlands have snow today
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby Tony Crocker » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:57 pm

And the winner is....
Timberline to open Palmer October 7th for advanced skiers & riders
Timberline is pleased to announce it will be opening Palmer Snowfield on weekends for skiing and snowboarding starting Oct. 7 and 8 (weather permitting). The Palmer Chairlift will operate from 8am to 3pm on Saturdays and Sundays. Lift tickets are $61 each and will be available at Guest Services in Timberline’s Wy’East Day Lodge. 2017/2018 Timberline Season Pass holders may use their new pass!

There will be some snow grooming on Palmer for a better experience; however, conditions can change rapidly. Early season snow conditions are extremely variable with the possibility of ice in the mornings and thaw in the afternoon. Skiers and riders are urged to use extreme caution. The Palmer Snowfield is recommended for advanced skiers and riders only.

Stay tuned to the Timberline Lodge Conditions page for future operating times and lift schedule. The operating schedule will be dependent on weather conditions.

Terrain parks are not scheduled to open at this time.

For those not interested in skiing or riding but very interested in seeing the snow at Timberline, come up and enjoy hiking and sightseeing around the lodge (sledding and tubing is not permitted). Many of Timberline’s Mt. Hood restaurants will also be open offering breakfast, lunch, dinner, and drinks with a view.

Be advised: Palmer Snowfield conditions are suitable for advanced skiers and riders only.

Be aware and be safe, early season conditions exist.

Purchase your Timberline Season Pass!
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby EMSC » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:17 am

Tony Crocker wrote:There will be some snow grooming on Palmer for a better experience; however, conditions can change rapidly. Early season snow conditions are extremely variable with the possibility of ice in the mornings and thaw in the afternoon. Skiers and riders are urged to use extreme caution. The Palmer Snowfield is recommended for advanced skiers and riders only.


Yikes. I'd take a firm, but newly man-made WROD over that (at least most of the time). BTW A-Basin has been up to 2 trails for the past several days already which, while still crowded, does reduce the craziness a fair bit.
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby Admin » Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:55 am

EMSC wrote:BTW A-Basin has been up to 2 trails for the past several days already which, while still crowded, does reduce the craziness a fair bit.


As will the addition of Loveland tomorrow.

And here's the winter outlook from both NOAA and Accuweather:
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:15 pm

I think that's boilerplate CYA language from Timberline. The bottom line is that Palmer is quite depleted by its Labor Day summer closing with a WROD rebuilt every night on the lower third of skiing. So Palmer does not reopen in October without substantial natural snow, of which I heard there was at least 2 feet. In many if not most seasons Palmer does not open at all until late spring, as the lift gets too much ice/rime during winter storms.
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby lono » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:30 pm

Some Halloween ghost must have pulled the snow switch at the Great Northern Bar! Steady valley snow totals about 5" to 10". Ski hill has 8" to 10" at the base and 20" to 30" on top. Skining the Benny Up trail I counted 5 fan guns blowing some base on Tony Matt. One run of boot top powder and knee deep flora.
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby lono » Tue Nov 07, 2017 9:41 am

Snow continued thru sunday nite. Yesturdays skin up was rewarded with great untracked upper mountain skiiing,the lower half was still fun but took a toll on my skiis.
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby kingslug » Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:10 am

Well I'll see you all Dec 13 to 17...let it snow.
New boots and fat skis too. Since me and Marc had the same boots for about the same amount of time I figured it was time. And last years insane depths , well the 105's weren't big enough. Head Kore 117 should cover it.
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Nov 09, 2017 1:03 pm

You'll need something big in early December. All of the weather guys are calling for UT, CA to miss out as far as we can see for November. You might want to check out Targhee, which has already had 90 inches snow and has a 49-inch base.
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby kingslug » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:24 am

Every time I go to Utah in December it dumps...
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby jamesdeluxe » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:17 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:You'll need something big in early December. All of the weather guys are calling for UT, CA to miss out as far as we can see for November. You might want to check out Targhee, which has already had 90 inches snow and has a 49-inch base.

You heard it here first. Five weeks out, Kingslug and I are being told to move our mid-December trips away from the Wasatch.
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:10 pm

Five weeks out is way too early to draw that conclusion. But Targhee is loaded with snow and driveable from SLC if the dry spell persists. Maybe 10-15% odds of that now. If you have a plane ticket and a car rental you have nothing to worry about.
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Re: Western Weather 2017-18

Postby kingslug » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:26 am

I remember several times arriving when conditions where not that good. The Bazinga it dumps and High T open up. Last year we got interlodged it dumped so hard. year before they forecast 3 inches and 18 fell. So..who knows.
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