Snow Summit 10/30/04

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Snow Summit 10/30/04

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:56 am

Last week's storm was cold enough to snow 1-2 feet in the Southern California mountains, so 4 areas opened by today. I chose Snow Summit for several reasons:
1. The storm snowed more at Big Bear than in the closer San Gabriel Mts, the opposite of the normal pattern.
2. The other 3 areas opened Thursday or Friday, so I figured that Summit's snow would be less chewed up on its opening day.
3. Snow Summit's long established reputation of management competence in grooming and snowmaking.

This is the probably the first October opening of Southern California ski areas on record. Thus it was a very different experience from a typical day at Snow Summit. See my report and pics from last January 10 to compare: http://216.250.243.13/discus2/messages/ ... 1073938644.

Snow Summit was caught off-guard by the early storm. Its normally informative website had almost no info. The 800 number snow report said 4 lifts would run today, so I was convinced to go.
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Here's my view of from the base just after buying my lift ticket. The stairs are not cleared, as they concentrated on the higher priority task of preparing the slopes
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Riding the first lift I see they are making snow on Miracle Mile, one of the 2 busiest top-to-bottom runs. On these busy runs the surface was packed down and more irregular than normal. Only a very few dirt spots emerged with the day's traffic, and with
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There was a very pleasant surprise not mentioned in the phone report. While only 4 lifts were open additional terrain not served by those lifts was available. This run, Log Chute, had groomed natural-only snow and was outstanding cruising in the morning
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The best part of the surprise was that 2 terrain pods were left mostly ungroomed. However this was the 3rd day after the storm and yesterday was sunny. Fortunately I had thrown my whole ski bag in the car, and it contained my Volant Chubbs, which can ha
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Chair 3 is shorter but it's higher up and the snow was of better quality. But it was still pretty empty. How often can you make 8's of your own tracks? The skier in this pic is the only other one I saw. A couple of boarders tried it, but there's a flat
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On the upper west side is the low intermediate chair 9. The natural snow held up well here all day.
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No visit to the Big Bear area is complete without a vicarious view of 11,500 foot San Gorgonio. I documented this view in detail in last January's report.
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In the afternoon it warmed up to at least the mid-40's. Popular natural snow runs like Log Chute started to grow brown spots and you had to watch your step much more than in the morning. There is some question about how much of this is going to hold up
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re: Snow Summit 10/30/04

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:04 am

This was my first attempt with pics in the new format. Sizing the pics is easier as I can always get the 480x360 with one multiple reduction instead of the old trial and error method to get under 40K file size.

Unfortunately it appears that if you load all your pics at once, they will appear in the reverse order from which you posted them. I must be missing something here. And how do you post more text below the last picture? Do you preview after each picture to get the order right?

Ordering is fixed many years later with the insert function.
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Postby Tony Crocker » Sun Oct 31, 2004 1:09 am

I now also notice that picture descriptions are limited in length. How do you do text between and after pictures?
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re: Snow Summit 10/30/04

Postby hamdog » Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:25 am

Tone says:
This was my first attempt with pics in the new format. Sizing the pics is easier as I can always get the 480x360 with one multiple reduction instead of the old trial and error method to get under 40K file size.


a mutltiple reduction? huh? i keep doing it the trial and error way. takes forever it seems. good thing i don't post that many pics.

good questions you have too. i was wondering the same thing.

NOTE: the reply to these questions may be a new post in the FYI section of Liftlines. har har har har.
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re: Snow Summit 10/30/04

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re: Snow Summit 10/30/04

Postby woodi7259 » Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:59 am

another nice report from the epic preseason out west. Keep getting out there and enjoying it for us east coasters that havn't even had cold enough weather to blow snow yet.
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re: Snow Summit 10/30/04

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:42 pm

I am pleased to report that my tracks are the 8's at left which lead out the lower left corner of the pic. The sitzmarks are from a snowboarder who came to a halt in the flat spots. There was a flat section just below me where they had to posthole for 50 yards or so. Given Big Bear's 70+% snowboarder ratio and Snow Summit's low intermediate reputation, I almost had the freshies to myself :D

It was heavy snow, and I was pretty beat when I stopped for lunch at 12:30 having skied 18K, with 6K of that untracked. I left at 3:30 with 26K, definitely one of my better opening days.

With regard to the epic start, it is confined to the Sierra and Utah at the moment. I would not hesitate to recommend early season destination trips to either. You won't be disappointed.
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re: Snow Summit 10/30/04

Postby hamdog » Sun Oct 31, 2004 5:48 pm

can someone explain what a sitzmark is?

never heard the word or expression before. thanks
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Postby Admin » Sun Oct 31, 2004 6:11 pm

hamdog wrote:can someone explain what a sitzmark is?

never heard the word or expression before. thanks


It's the mark that's made when you sitz in the snow - usually unintentionally. ;-)
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re: Snow Summit 10/30/04

Postby hamdog » Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:08 pm

geez. i was being really ignorant. sitz as in "sits". i see. a butt mark. thanks for clearing that up for me. lol
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re: Snow Summit 10/30/04

Postby riverc0il » Sun Oct 31, 2004 9:22 pm

much respect to being able to close your own eights! definitely a rare thing to get to do on a powder day.
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