Pass Wars 2019 edition

Topics of a general nature regarding snowsports, which don't easily fit into one of our other Liftlines categories. This is also the place to post Letters to the Editor.

Pass Wars 2019 edition

Postby tseeb » Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:07 am

Looks like Vail fired the first shot adding Snowbasin and Sun Valley to Epic Pass. See https://www.vaildaily.com/news/sun-vall ... epic-pass/ which includes "Epic Pass holders will get seven days of unrestricted skiing at the two resorts, while Epic Local Pass holders will get two days at each resort with minimal restrictions."

I'm not sure what I'll be doing next season. So far this year I have 22 days on my (Vail) Tahoe Local Pass and 0 on my Ikon. I was thinking about trying Sierra Tahoe pass for a year as it comes with Powder Alliance benefits and would make my where to ski today choice at Tahoe much simpler. But besides being on other side of Echo Summit from my family's cabin, Sierra has limited snowmaking so they don't have great early season and always close mid-April.
User avatar
tseeb
 
Posts: 742
Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:16 pm
Location: Northern California

Re: Pass Wars 2019 edition

Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:55 am

Sierra is also relatively low and more rain-prone than Kirkwood or the upper half of Heavenly. This is not a good idea unless you're willing to do a lot of extended commuting to Squaw and Mammoth on your Ikon.

I have axes to grind with Vail myself, but there's no point in cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you are based in South Tahoe, you need to have some form of Epic Pass. If based in North Tahoe, it's a closer call but I would prefer Ikon.

I guess the Earl Holding heirs of Sun Valley/Snowbasin are not willing to sell yet or are asking too high a price. But I'm sure in the meantime they will collect decent revenue from Vail to (presumably) leave the Mountain Collective. If they do, Mountain Collective is now a subset of the Ikon Pass.
http://bestsnow.net
Ski Records
Season length: 21 months, Nov. 29, 2010 - July 2, 2012
Days in one year: 80 from Nov. 29, 2010 - Nov. 17, 2011
Season vertical: 1,610K in 2016-17
Season powder: 291K in 2011-12
User avatar
Tony Crocker
 
Posts: 10031
Joined: Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:37 am
Location: Avatar: Charlotte Bay, Antarctica 2011
Location: Glendale, California

Re: Pass Wars 2019 edition

Postby Sbooker » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:21 pm

https://www.thredbo.com.au/wp-content/u ... mation.pdf
In other news it appears that the Mountain Collective Pass is locked in for 2019/20 although it is obviously up in the air as to what resorts will be on it. The above link says that the 19/20 pass will be on sale at the beginning of March.
I'm thinking that some of the other Ikon resorts will be on the Mountain Collective - Steamboat, Copper and Solitude would be nice.
Sbooker
 
Posts: 50
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:29 pm
Location: Brisbane Australia
Location: Brisbane Australia

Re: Pass Wars 2019 edition

Postby Sbooker » Fri Mar 08, 2019 3:19 pm

The Mountain Collective pass has been released and we Aussies (and Kiwis too) get the pass for the same $449 but in Aussie dollars! A huge saving.
The $1 for kids has understandably been dropped - it’s now $99 which is a bargain still.
Happy days.
Sbooker
 
Posts: 50
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:29 pm
Location: Brisbane Australia
Location: Brisbane Australia

Re: Pass Wars 2019 edition

Postby berkshireskier » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:15 am

Interesting story today on Bloomberg.com about the impact of multi-ski area season passes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... nd=premium
berkshireskier
 
Posts: 432
Joined: Tue May 15, 2007 2:20 pm
Location: Western Massachusetts

Re: Pass Wars 2019 edition

Postby tseeb » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:57 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:Sierra is also relatively low
Sierra's main lodge and parking are at 7300' which is higher than all other Tahoe area's bases except for Kirkwood and Mt. Rose. I'm somewhat cherry-picking Tony's quote and Sierra's elevation as bottom of their West Bowl lifts is 6640'. But Sierra's top elevation is 8852' is comparable to (and maybe even high than) highest lifts at Squaw.

The rest of Tony's post follows:
Tony Crocker wrote:and more rain-prone than Kirkwood or the upper half of Heavenly. This is not a good idea unless you're willing to do a lot of extended commuting to Squaw and Mammoth on your Ikon.

I have axes to grind with Vail myself, but there's no point in cutting off your nose to spite your face. If you are based in South Tahoe, you need to have some form of Epic Pass. If based in North Tahoe, it's a closer call but I would prefer Ikon.

I guess the Earl Holding heirs of Sun Valley/Snowbasin are not willing to sell yet or are asking too high a price. But I'm sure in the meantime they will collect decent revenue from Vail to (presumably) leave the Mountain Collective. If they do, Mountain Collective is now a subset of the Ikon Pass.
The Epic Local Pass includes 2 days at both Snow Basin and Sun Valley (see https://www.epicpass.com/Passes/Epic-Local-Pass.aspx) while the full Epic Pass gives you 7 at both plus 7 at Telluride. Note that Mountain Collective no longer includes Snow Basin and Sun Valley.

I renewed my $589 (up from $569 last year) Tahoe Local pass last night. I will probably drop to $429 (this year) Senior Tahoe Value Pass the following season when I qualify for it. I didn't want to buy two Ikon Base passes and two Vail Tahoe passes so I made deal with my wife that I would buy her Ikon again and she would buy her Vail Tahoe. She ended up with a Tahoe Value Pass for $499 wich besides being blacked out on holidays, is also not valid at Kirkwood or Northstar on any Saturday and does not include 5 days at Vail CO/UT resorts. I figured the extra $85 I paid (they charge $5 to send out a new pass if you change version) would get used storm skiing at Northstar on a Saturday or late season (if they have one again) at Kirkwood and it gives my flexibility to go to Kirkwood on way up on Sat. if I do a weekend trip with my son or still-workng friend. Vail pushed me into buying yesterday to get maximum of 10 buddy tickets although they have extended that through Friday.
User avatar
tseeb
 
Posts: 742
Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:16 pm
Location: Northern California

Re: Pass Wars 2019 edition

Postby sierra_cement » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:19 pm

Did you end up buying Sierra at Tahoe pass as well? How are the crowds there vs. Heavenly and Kirkwood?
sierra_cement
 
Posts: 21
Joined: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:01 pm
Location: San Jose

Re: Pass Wars 2019 edition

Postby tseeb » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:50 pm

No Sierra at Tahoe pass for me next year unless I buy a Subaru in the fall. While that usually gives you 2 unrestricted pass, they do not include Powder Alliance benefits.

I can’t buy three passes - I’d like to only buy one pass. If I only used Ikon at Mammoth and Squaw in the Spring, I could drop to 1 1/2 by buying Ikon every other year as it was valid starting 4/8 at those two areas if bought this Spring.
User avatar
tseeb
 
Posts: 742
Joined: Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:16 pm
Location: Northern California


Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


All content herein copyright © 1999-2017 First Tracks!! Online Media

Forums Terms & Conditions of Use

cron