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It isn't an enticement for the vast majority of skiers, regardless of however many "hundreds" of tracks you may see - that most certainly is the point. When you are talking about a resort with aspirations to compete with areas generating over a million skier visits, a few hundred tracks into...

And yet, their skier visits are still the smallest of the three PC resorts and are microscopic compared to other resorts of their size. "Hundreds" doesn't quite get it done, Marc.

No doubt that the Canyons has its Pros, one of which you highlight. But think about the type of skier who is going to view BC access as a Pro. That may apply to no more than 5% of the skiing population. If that place is going to be a success, it has to appeal to Joe Dentist and his family...

The frustrating thing is that they do own some other land up on that ridge but have refused to build lifts there in favor of lifts like Daybreak in the flats serving RE. Battle Mountain sort of supplements my point. I doubt that anything ever gets built there. As for BC, perhaps that's an...

Fair point, but as for the Canyons, it was brought back from the dead by ASC primarily as a RE venture. They didn't graft a RE play onto an existing, successful resort. With respect to Haystack, wasn't it a RE play from the very beginning (not talking about the latest attempt)? Maybe I'm...

That's a great map, though I'm almost certain that his placement of the Daybreak, Dreamscape and Dreamcatcher lifts is incorrect. IIRC, what he depicts as Daybreak is actually Dreamcatcher. What he depicts as Dreamscape and Dreamcatcher don't exist. The Dreamscape summit is the same as...

You needn't change topography. You just have to use it to your advantage. ASC's biggest bonehead move was not moving the base a few hundred yards to the south so it would be near the bottom of Tombstone. Now they are locked into a spot where 3/4 of their terrain requires multiple lift rides...

I don't see how the Canyons can really break through until and unless they solve some of the more fundamental issues with its layout. Even with the installation of the new quad from the base, you still have to take a few lifts and/or deal with an annoying skate/hike to get back to the base. It...

Question - why is it that nearly all skiing in South America that I've seen is above treeline? Is the tree line lower in the Andes? I know there's some sub-alpine terrain further to the south near Patagonia, but it seems that the most heralded resorts, which are at similar latitudes as those...

Couldn't agree more. To all that you wrote, you must add the issues with aspect. Very little terrain at Big Sky, and virtually none of the higher elevation terrain off the summit, has a northerly aspect. On most days, the only lift worth lapping is going to be the Challenger lift b/c it...

What other deals are typically out there for Baldy tix?

Marc - Have you seen any data from that snow gauge? I always wondered what snowfall/snowpack looked like in the high Uintas seeing as how they are somewhat shadowed by the Wasatch. Given the lushness of your surroundings on the approach, it seems that they do pretty well from a moisture...

But Geoff, by my read of the purchase agreement, there were a few other odds and ends that ASC retained in the asset sale. IIRC, certain environmental obligations and a few other bits and pieces. The lifetime pass obligation was the biggest thing for sure, but not the only thing. And I a...

If you read the press release on their website, it confirms that this is the Backside 1 chairlift.

There's a lot of touring/sidecounty on both sides of the resort. Ymir Peak is a big destination on the northeast side. I would say that the sidecountry where this lift is going on got far more traffic b/c it was lift accessed with little work and you ended up at the access road. This is...

Some real good insight and discussion in this thread. I will say in response to this snippet above that Utah does market heavily to SoCal. This was my first winter in LA and, while I didn't see billboards like you suggest (actually, a very good idea for people on 14/395), I saw commercial...

I have to think that Stratton is coming soon. There just isn't that much upside (read: developable land near the base) for them anymore.

Which is why I asked if that could be right. Didn't make sense. Not good. We were talking about the Middle Fork of Lytle Creek only. I am aware that the prospective expansion terrain would drain into one of the forks. Regardless, based on a second look at the map, it's clear that the Middle...

If that map is correct, judging by the location of San Antonio Creek (also to be designated as wild), all of the ski area and most of the possible expansion terrain are already within the Cucamonga Wilderness area. Is that true? I think you're right that the Middle Fork of Lytle Creek is to...

You are probably right that there is potential in the off-season business, but you'd have to bring in a huge number of incremental visitors to pay off the debt accumulated from investing in a detatchable lift of any kind. I'm not sure you can build a solid business case based on that. But it's...