2026/27 season plans

Yes that’s dirt cheap for the lodging. And yes you want to base in St. Anton due to the early morning meetups with guided groups.

I do not believe a car is more needed in Japan than the Alps. I did not have a car on my first Japan ski trip that was to both Hakuba and Niseko. The second trip had one for hitting some smaller areas on Hokkaido.

In both cases it boils down to whether you are mainly staying in one place or moving around a lot. And solo is the best case for public transit. That first Japan trip was solo and a very rare instance of me not having a car.

If Sbooker is going multiple places that makes the public transit trickier. Sticking with trains I’d vote for Zurich since Swiss system is so comprehensive plus it’s the easiest gateway for St. Anton.
 
Warm up days choice determines destination airport. Munich for a couple of ski days around Innsbruck. Zurich for a couple of ski days in Jungfrau. Thoughts?

Gateway Airport & City:
Munich is a far better city than Zurich, but Zurich is quite interesting (and compact!) for a day or two.

Warm-Up/Add-On Area:
Jungfrau is a world-class alpine destination. Skiing is just one activity. Scenery is amazing (easily Top 3-5 Alps). People go winter hiking, ride trains/S3 Gondolas, sledding, sun-chair lounging, etc. Interlaken (Est) is only 1.5-2 hours from Zurich by train.
Innsbruck. I'm the wrong person to comment too much, but Stubai Glacier, Nordkette, etc. look interesting. And economical.
Alternatively, Kitzbühel is another easy stopover on a Munich-to-St Anton route, and it sits in the middle of the massively interconnected KitzSki+SkiWelt. I have considered this trip before: Munich + train + Kitzbühel + St. Anton.
My pick: Jungfrau, then Kitzbühel, then Innsbruck

St. Anton Guides:
Piste2Powder - I believe it is UK/British owners? Anyways, it's Anglo-focused, some German. Looks like it's 3 levels now. Some days there were 4 groups going out; other days, only 2 groups. Almost all groups went to the same zones and selected slightly different terrain depending on ability. We did 2-3 days and highly recommend it. It was easy for my brother and me to do repeat runs ourselves and ask for recommendations. Issues: They likely will never take you to Warth, and barely to Lech. Also, different skiers every day. Some repeats. Positive: Easy to take a day or two off from guiding.
Snoworks - It might be fun skiing with the same group over multiple days. You certainly will not repeat terrain.

Swiss Railways: You can drop your gear off to or from the airport to any station in Switzerland for $15-20. I dropped my 50 lb body bag/ski bag at the Murren railway, and picked it up 1.5-2 days later at the Zurich airport. Traveled to Lucerne and Zurich for 48 hours with just carry on.
 
I was looking at the accommodation offer late last night. I just had a better look. It’s actually cheaper that I thought. I must have done a quick calculation in my head that rounded it to about 1000AUD.

728 Euro for 7 nights is within my self imposed budget.

Yes, I considered a solo trip to St. Anton. I found many options at inns or pensions with single-occupancy rooms within walking distance of a lift for around $100+/night or slightly more. Especially January. Stuben was also an option, but not as well located. Lech, Zurs, or even Ischgl are more expensive. Austrians in my ski groups complained that many Swiss were crossing the border to ski, inflating prices in St. Anton.

Although Arlberg's largest base, St. Anton, is semi-reasonably priced, it does not cater to average intermediate skiers. Local terrain is limited.
This helps explain the daily migration of intermediate skiers from St. Anton over to Zurs/Lech or Stuben. Busy! However, Rendl and most upper-mountain St. Anton lifts are uncrowded.
 
Is there a thread for this yet? I couldn't find one. If there is could one of the management please add this question to the existing thread please?

Please excuse the rambling thoughts under -

I have a January solo trip booked to Austria. I have a March family trip booked to France. My work is dead quite. I am going to do a February trip (likely solo). Chinese new year is from Feb 6 for a couple of weeks and that would be my preferred window as far as dates go so Japan isn't exactly ideal for that time. President's Day is Monday Feb 15 so that is also a factor for USA options*. Is the week leading up to or the week after President's Day the busy time? I can lodge with my wife's aunt in SLC so accommodation won't be a big issue - it's just the crowds that are a consideration. Canada is not a good option given the weather might be stacked against it. I'd love to tick off a bucket list and go to Taos and Wolf Creek and that area is fancied for decent conditions.
Any thoughts for mid February?

*I don't have a pass yet so would need to get onto this soon I believe. Not to mention flights will be way cheaper now that if I leave it some time.
 
Is the week leading up to or the week after President's Day the busy time?
The week after Pres. Day is more likely to be a bit busier.

New England schools have that entire week off for "mid-winter break." I would imagine that there are families who fly to SLC for a ski vacation using Ikon or Epic passes.

I experienced busy slopes that week first hand in New England several years ago. Deliberately wanted to see how busy Indy ski areas would be over the holiday weekend but didn't anticipate the extra people the entire rest of the week. That included a powder day at Plattekill in NY that Friday so it was busy for two reasons.

As for Taos, if you go there in early or late February I'll be around. Doing a Private Ski Week with my ski buddy from Albuquerque that starts Jan. 31, going home for a bit, then returning to meet up with friends from TheSkiDiva. I'll start skiing on Feb. 20 and am not doing a Ski Week that week. Taos is on Ikon and the Mountain Collective.
 
The week after Pres. Day is more likely to be a bit busier.

New England schools have that entire week off for "mid-winter break." I would imagine that there are families who fly to SLC for a ski vacation using Ikon or Epic passes.

I experienced busy slopes that week first hand in New England several years ago. Deliberately wanted to see how busy Indy ski areas would be over the holiday weekend but didn't anticipate the extra people the entire rest of the week. That included a powder day at Plattekill in NY that Friday so it was busy for two reasons.

As for Taos, if you go there in early or late February I'll be around. Doing a Private Ski Week with my ski buddy from Albuquerque that starts Jan. 31, going home for a bit, then returning to meet up with friends from TheSkiDiva. I'll start skiing on Feb. 20 and am not doing a Ski Week that week. Taos is on Ikon and the Mountain Collective.
Thanks. So the week prior to President’s Day would be good for skiing. Would you expect the Utah national parks to be busy the next week?
 
Thanks. So the week prior to President’s Day would be good for skiing. Would you expect the Utah national parks to be busy the next week?
Speaking of Snowbird, even the Saturday and Sunday of Prez Weekend won't be too bad for crowds because those two days are blocked out on the Ikon Base pass. Half of SLC owns the Ikon Base pass:ROFLMAO: The week after Presidents Day might be a little busier than normal weekdays, but not the significantly larger crowds you see at ski areas all that week in the Eastern USA.

I've been to all the Utah national parks and several state parks, mostly in spring, and they are not as bad for crowds now as they were in the couple years during and just after the pandemic. In winter the busiest ones will be mostly empty and the temps pleasant. It's not optimal to visit most of them from late spring to early fall as they will be busy and very hot.
 
Thanks. So the week prior to President’s Day would be good for skiing.

New England schools have that entire week off for "mid-winter break." I would imagine that there are families who fly to SLC for a ski vacation using Ikon or Epic passes.

The week after Presidents Day might be a little busier than normal weekdays, but not the significantly larger crowds you see at ski areas all that week in the Eastern USA.


As @MarzNC mentioned, Presidents' Week is a major holiday period for schools across the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, and parts of the Midwest. Historically, many of these districts schedule a February break to reduce heating costs by pushing the school year further into June.

As @MarzNC and @jimk noted, East Coast ski resorts are typically very busy during this time, as their financial success is heavily tied to the Christmas-New Year's and Presidents' Day weeks.

However, this does not necessarily translate to the West Coast. Crowds there tend to mirror local school calendars. For instance, my brother’s business observations in Telluride show that while they see many destination skiers, Presidents' Week is not among their top four busiest weeks. That list is dominated by the Christmas-New Year's period and the spring break weeks in March, which are driven by Texas and Arizona school schedules.

While March often provides great conditions in Colorado—with deep bases, high snow totals, and better preservation—it can start to deteriorate at lower-elevation resorts (under 8,000–9,000 feet) as the month progresses.

In short, I wouldn't worry too much about the crowds during Presidents' Week in the West; the preceding week would likely be quieter and more similar to January. It certainly won't feel like the peak season crowds found in the French Alps or over the Christmas holiday.
 
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However, this does not necessarily translate to the West Coast. Crowds there tend to mirror local school calendars. For instance, my brother’s business observations in Telluride show that while they see many destination skiers, Presidents' Week is not among their top four busiest weeks. That list is dominated by the Christmas-New Year's period and the spring break weeks in March, which are driven by Texas and Arizona school schedules.
For Wolf Creek and Taos, plenty of license plates in the parking lots from Oklahoma too during school vacation weeks. Easy to tell which March week is the most common spring break week for a given season by the blackout dates for value season passes. For 2027 Wolf Creek expects to be busy March 6-18. For Taos, March 13-18 is when the 2026-27 value passes won't work.
 
Thanks. Decisions……
I also have the option of extending my St Anton time. Snoworks have a ‘backcountry’ week in Les Arc the next week. I could then have a few days in Cham before I came home. The group format might be more fun than skiing by myself.
 
Canada is not a good option given the weather might be stacked against it.
Meaning the El Nino? I would not worry too much about that. Interior western Canada runs about 85% of average during strong El Nino seasons. El Nino was not a factor in the two bad years I was up there, 2005 and 2015.

I can lodge with my wife's aunt in SLC so accommodation won't be a big issue - it's just the crowds that are a consideration.
I was spoiled by numerous trips from 1981-2008 or so commuting from SLC with the cheap ski shop day tickets. Those days are over. I do not think I would want to be doing that over President's weekend in the current era, especially the year after last year's awful season. I would not like to be forced into our former admin's commute schedule from SLC to the ski areas to minimize the traffic as a visitor.

I'd love to tick off a bucket list and go to Taos and Wolf Creek and that area is fancied for decent conditions.
Yes that is tempting but there are caveats. I've posted numerous times that there is zero evidence of southern Colorado being favored by El Nino. Nonetheless Wolf Creek gets a lot of snow and it would be very surprising for it to be less than abundant by early February. That is not so for the rest of the Southwest, where March is the safest month for an adequate snowpack. That applies especially to Taos, which is by far the steepest mountain of the region requiring the most coverage.

In place of the old "70-inch rule" for required Taos base depth, I now use the opening of Kachina chair as the benchmark for an adequate snowpack. During the 12 years Kachina has existed its opening dates were:
Earliest Jan. 13th (strong but weird El Nino 2016)
75th percentile Feb. 4th
Median Feb. 13th (date in 2024, next strongest El Nino of the 12 years)
25th percentile Feb. 23
Worst: never in 2017-18

Doing a Private Ski Week with my ski buddy from Albuquerque that starts Jan. 31
Stuart's weekend podcast on Fixing America's Broken Ski School Model made me glad I took this screenshot at Portillo.
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You can say, "Well, it's in South America," but Portillo is American owned and the hotel is upscale with all inclusive room rates of $464-$607 per night and I'll bet most of the instructors are from top Northern Hemisphere resorts.

So Stuart's podcast prompted me to research Taos' ski school. While an individual morning or afternoon group lesson costs $150, a Ski Week package of 6 morning lessons costs $450. Since sbooker is interested in instruction, I thought I would draw this to his attention, and I think the ski week groups stick together once they are sorted out as compatible skiers. MarzNC likes the Taos ski school so much that she ignores my warnings about snow coverage and goes there during late January/early February nearly every year. Push that to mid-February in a big El Nino year and I think sbooker should consider it. I don't think President's Week is a big issue at Taos. It's those mid-March Texas and Oklahoma spring breaks that are busiest, same as at Wolf Creek.
 
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go to Taos
I wish that Sbooker could hit the El Niño jackpot and visit the six ski areas in northern NM: Taos, Santa Fe, Pajarito, Angel Fire, Red River, and Sipapu. All are worthwhile when conditions are good and then there's the food/culture.
 
I wish that Sbooker could hit the El Niño jackpot and visit the six ski areas in northern NM: Taos, Santa Fe, Pajarito, Angel Fire, Red River, and Sipapu. All are worthwhile when conditions are good and then there's the food/culture.
The architecture of Taos the town is part of the reason I want to go there.
 
So Stuart's podcast prompted me to research Taos' ski school. While an individual morning or afternoon group lesson costs $150, a Ski Week package of 6 morning lessons costs $450. Since sbooker is interested in instruction, I thought I would draw this to his attention, and I think the ski week groups stick together once they are sorted out as compatible skiers. MarzNC likes the Taos ski school so much that she ignores my warnings about snow coverage and goes there during late January/early February nearly every year. Push that to mid-February in a big El Nino year and I think sbooker should consider it. I don't think President's Week is a big issue at Taos. It's those mid-March Texas and Oklahoma spring breaks that are busiest, same as at Wolf Creek.
A Taos Ski Week is not only a good deal, the amount of improvement possible with 6 consecutive lessons with a small group and the same instructor is hard to find elsewhere. My advanced ski buddies who I've done the most trips with started doing a Ski Week in 2017 or 2018. We haven't all gone every year since then but haven't skipped many seasons.

The key is that the quality of the instruction for a Ski Week is quite high. Usually PSIA Level 3 for advanced groups, but even the Level 2 instructors who get to teach Ski Weeks have plenty of teaching experience. I do enough trips to other destinations that it doesn't matter if I have a chance to ski steep trees or double-black terrain when I'm at Taos. What I've been able to learn during Ski Weeks during low snow situations when most teaching was done on groomers or blue bumps is one reason I feel confident skiing any black terrain at big mountains at this point . . . starting after age 65. That's in addition to semi-private lessons at other destination resorts (Alta, Crested Butte, Big Sky), plus Bridger and Wolf Creek, usually once or twice a season. The instructors I work with are all Level 3 with 20+ years of experience.

Ski Week groups are 7 or less. There is a ski-off on Sunday morning (a few turns on a blue groomer). Anyone not happy with their group on Sunday morning can switch on Monday morning. Sometimes it's not because of ability level but more a matter of chemistry with the instructor or other members of a group. For advanced groups, there are usually group(s) that hike the Ridge and groups that don't.

There is nothing consistent about when I've gone to Taos since the first trip in 2017. Has ranged from mid-January with intermediate friends to late February depending on what else I decide to do for a given season and when my ski buddies want to be at Taos. This season won't be the first time that I've opted to plan two trips to Taos.

Last season I went to Taos in late February but I didn't do a Ski Week. I had several friends at Taos that week, but I was a solo traveler. I skied TSV for a few days then went to Wolf Creek to catch a powder storm. Had a good time adventure skiing with my Wolf Creek instructor.

The skier who does a Ski Week consistently in early February is the man who started the SkiTalk mini-Gathering for Taos in 2019. He wants to do a Ski Week early enough in the season for it to be more useful by the time he goes to the SkiTalk gathering, which is usually late February or early March. He started doing Ski Weeks in 2018, a very low snow season. Fair to say, his ability to ski advanced/expert terrain at Taos is quite different at this stage.

The Pres. Day weekend has a bit of an impact for Taos, but mainly on Saturday morning. Every Saturday morning is busier regardless of snow or weather conditions because there are many locals in weekly programs, both adults and children. Lodging rates are higher on Thu, Fri, Sat nights before that Monday holiday. I stayed slopeside the week before Pres. Day weekend in Feb 2025. Happened to be a low snow situation. Was pretty deserted by Monday.
 
I wish that Sbooker could hit the El Niño jackpot and visit the six ski areas in northern NM: Taos, Santa Fe, Pajarito, Angel Fire, Red River, and Sipapu. All are worthwhile when conditions are good and then there's the food/culture.
The intermediate Ski Diva I'm meeting up with in Albuquerque before a Diva gathering at Taos in late February wants to check out Santa Fe. Also either Angel Fire or Red River. So we'll warm up at those resorts before starting to ski Taos. I have only skied a morning at Santa Fe. That was back in 2017 and snow conditions weren't that great. Had been a thaw and freeze situation the week before. Great views though.

Mountain Capital worked out a way to get more water for snowmaking at Pajarito . . . and fire fighting during the summer if needed. Would like to ski there at some point but harder to schedule since it's not open 7 days a week.
 
Plans for 2026-27:

Early December: Wolf Creek, staying in South Fork
January: Massanutten for timeshare week, then MLK weekend with a teenage friend
Early February: Wolf Creek for a couple days before a Private Ski Week at Taos
Late February: A couple days exploring NM skiing before a week at Taos during Ski Diva gathering (not doing a second Ski Week)
April: usual stay at Alta Lodge

Except for a few days at Massanutten, all trips were planned with friends who are travelmates and/or ski buddies. Have been organizing adults-only ski trips for 15 years given that my husband is a non-skier for assorted reasons.

No March ski trip because I'll be driving leisurely with my husband to New Orleans. He has a professional conference there in late March.
 
The architecture of Taos the town is part of the reason I want to go there.
Yes, it's interesting, reasonably priced and New Mexico cuisine is excellent, far better than L.A. Mexican when I first skied there in 1984 and 1993 though we have amazing regional Mexican restaurants in L.A. now. And thankfully the drive from town to the ski hill in Taos is not the junkshow of LCC/BCC.

I knew MarzNC would chime in about the quality of Taos instruction. I was on a short press trip there in 2007, and we were with instructors or guides nearly the whole time. So I think ski school is a viewed as a key component of Taos’ brand, and sbooker would get a lot out of it even if El Nino doesn't deliver on time.
I wish that Sbooker could hit the El Niño jackpot and visit the six ski areas in northern NM: Taos, Santa Fe, Pajarito, Angel Fire, Red River, and Sipapu.
I have only skied Santa Fe and Pajarito though I also skied Ski Apache on a rare big year there in 1993. Even if sbooker commits to a week in Taos, he has flexibility for any extra time, and can go into Colorado if the rest of New Mexico doesn't look that great.
 
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