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The creator runs a series of disaster-weather sites and specializes in hurricane destruction. He's delivering clicks, not usable content. Assume the algorithm rewards anything El Niño-related that's trending. The large-scale font used reveals classic A/B testing on YouTube videos for most views/engagement time.

He would post a dog pooping in a Nor'easter in September New England this past weekend if the algorithm served it up as a weather video.
I don’t know how that stuff works.
It is not doom content. He’s basically summarising what a couple of models are tipping.
That said I have no faith in these forecasts that are months out.
 
Andermatt is one of the few places I would recommend for utilizing guide services.
Issue: only 25% of a 360 mountain has a piste/can be scoped; otherwise, you have to commit to 5k vertical lines/navigation/conditions without visibility.

To create a short list, I would add
  • La Grave
  • Mont Blanc: Chamonix - Aiguille du Midi. Courmayeur - backside via Pte. Helbronner.

While you can certainly navigate large resorts like St. Anton, Val d’Isère, or Verbier, etc using a combination of line-of-sight, guidebooks, maps, and local beta, hiring a guide is still highly recommended. Without expert local knowledge, you will likely miss out on many of the classic lines that define these destinations.


Anyways, I like the local guiding group at Andermatt. It was founded by an American, Dan Loutrel, who came to Andermatt 20 years ago and really brought a less rigid, more American out-of-the-box business mentality. They offer all types of guided groups, skills, and tours, culminating in a 4-day freeride festival in March. Very enlightened for staid, expensive, regimented Switzerland. Compare his operation to what exists in Verbier (which perhaps has the most freeride terrain in Switzerland); Verbier essentially offers zero-to-nothing.



Anyways, some 10% off discounts

 
Andermatt is one of the few places I would recommend for utilizing guide services.
Issue: only 25% of a 360 mountain has a piste/can be scoped; otherwise, you have to commit to 5k vertical lines/navigation/conditions without visibility.

To create a short list, I would add
  • La Grave
  • Mont Blanc: Chamonix - Aiguille du Midi. Courmayeur - backside via Pte. Helbronner.

While you can certainly navigate large resorts like St. Anton, Val d’Isère, or Verbier, etc using a combination of line-of-sight, guidebooks, maps, and local beta, hiring a guide is still highly recommended. Without expert local knowledge, you will likely miss out on many of the classic lines that define these destinations.


Anyways, I like the local guiding group at Andermatt. It was founded by an American, Dan Loutrel, who came to Andermatt 20 years ago and really brought a less rigid, more American out-of-the-box business mentality. They offer all types of guided groups, skills, and tours, culminating in a 4-day freeride festival in March. Very enlightened for staid, expensive, regimented Switzerland. Compare his operation to what exists in Verbier (which perhaps has the most freeride terrain in Switzerland); Verbier essentially offers zero-to-nothing.



Anyways, some 10% off discounts

Not cheap.
5 full days with Snoworks is about 1100 Euro. To be fair they are both probably catering to different clientele.
 
Not cheap.
5 full days with Snoworks is about 1100 Euro. To be fair they are both probably catering to different clientele.

If you dig around, Andermatt Guides is the same....$200 USD/day

Single guided day? No, not cheap. But I am only advocating spending in very few places where death, crevasses, and navigation are near impossible.

It's also the Switzerland factor (vs. France/Austria and especially Italy). Swiss stability and neutrality. And the Swiss Franc as a safe currency during periods of chaos: trade wars or physical wars, Ukraine, Iran, and Gaza. Simply: prices are high, and the exchange rate is unfavorable. A Guided Day is simply expensive: almost $1k per day (but can be split up to 6)


Andermatt Guides - What is a good deal:

Verbier: it seems strange that they don't have more accessible group-guiding programs given the sheer amount of terrain. It feels like a missed business opportunity—unless some sort of "Swiss ski mafia" controls the market.

To compare other spots:
* Engelberg: Similar programs exist, but the freeride terrain is more straightforward to navigate.
* Zermatt: Zermatters is a solid option.
* Mürren & St. Moritz: It’s basically pay the $1k for a private guide or accept the risk of playing with death.

Portes du Soleil - There is legitimate freeride skiing, especially in Avoriaz. Other skiers have utilized guides. I don't know if there are groups, but I would love someone to show me how to maximize a powder day there.

Lenzerheide-Arosa. The terrain exists, especially around the connection.
 
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If you dig around, Andermatt Guides is the same....$200 USD/day

Single guided day? No, not cheap. But I am only advocating spending in very few places where death, crevasses, and navigation are near impossible.

It's also the Switzerland factor (vs. France/Austria and especially Italy). Swiss stability and neutrality. And the Swiss Franc as a safe currency during periods of chaos: trade wars or physical wars, Ukraine, Iran, and Gaza. Simply: prices are high, and the exchange rate is unfavorable. A Guided Day is simply expensive: almost $1k per day (but can be split up to 6)


Andermatt Guides - What is a good deal:

Verbier - I don't know why anything similar exists. I assume a business opportunity exists unless there is a Swiss ski mafia.
Engelberg - similar programs, but freeride is more straightforward.
Zermatt - Zermatters is OK.
Murren - No. Play with death or pay $1k.
St. Moritz - No. Play with death or pay $1k.

Portes du Soleil - There is legitimate freeride skiing, especially in Avoriaz. Other skiers have utilized guides. I don't know if there are groups, but I would love someone to show me how to maximize a powder day there.

Lenzerheide-Arosa. The terrain exists, especially around the connection.
The $200 USD a day is acceptable. It’s mostly our peso that makes things pricy.

I miscalculated when I quoted the Snoworks price. It’s 750GBP which is 877Euro for 5 days full guiding. Pretty good value. But I get the impression they don’t cater for true experts that are chasing an extreme experience.
You mentioned extending Europe and doing the Les Arcs week too. I can get ski in/ski out lodging at Arc 1800 or Arc 1600 for 6 nights for only 600 Euros.
They do a tour from the back of Les Arc down to Champagny through the Vanoise which looks great fun. I’m tempted.
 
Fraser posted an informative piece about how El Niño may affect the Alps this season:

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You mentioned extending Europe and doing the Les Arcs week too. I can get ski in/ski out lodging at Arc 1800 or Arc 1600 for 6 nights for only 600 Euros.
They do a tour from the back of Les Arc down to Champagny through the Vanoise which looks great fun. I’m tempted.

Sounds like a deal!

In Utah or Colorado, the equivalent is a Super 8 in Sandy, UT, or 30+ miles from a ski resort in Grand Junction or Durango, CO. Colorado in general, even in down valley towns far from ski towns/areas, is very pricey mid-winter since Epic/Ikon Pass combined with competitive airfares.

I would rather be slopeside in France (plus saving on airfare).


There is simply too much interesting skiing in the Tarentaise Valley that is off the radar for US skiers outside the global brands (Val d'Isere, 3 Vallées). Even La Rosiere/La Thuile has great off-piste.

I felt I had short-changed Les Arcs, so I revisited last winter to the detriment of not really fully researching/exploring Ste. Foy.

The runs don't need to be extreme to be incredibly special and leave lasting, lifetime memories. Skiing to remote valleys in the Alps is simply amazing! In the Arlberg, I remember skiing from Stuben to Langen one day, and then Rendl to Pettnau the next --> huge 5k vert tours. The Alps' settlement density and history become an asset.

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Fraser's El Nino overall comments are surprisingly similar to the clickbait artist sbooker referenced, presumably both based upon climate models. However, Fraser did examine the the three big prior El Nino seasons of 1982-83, 1997-98 and 2015-16. Based upon the random variations during those three seasons, I retain my opinion that El Nino is not a useful indicator for forecasting snowfall in the Alps. I expect Liz and I will show up in late March and go wherever the most snow is, just like any season.
 
Did you all see this from the Ski Mag website? Seems to have some intelligent recommendations on some of the better European ski resorts to visit:
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Seems to have some intelligent recommendations on some of the better European ski resorts to visit:
At first, I thought that it was only name-checking the Alps usual suspects covered by the two mega passes -- which Americans should certainly visit at some point -- however, it also called out a number of under-the-radar (for U.S. skiers) areas like St. Veran/Abries, Vars/Risoul, Via Lattea, Risoul, Monte Rosa, Courmayeur, La Thuile, Gressoney, Innsbruck, and Montgenevre that FTOers have positively reported on.
 
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Did you all see this from the Ski Mag website?
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The article is overall much better than most MSM articles. It pays almost too much attention to the importance of altitude because it assumes the upcoming winter will be abnormally warm due to the El Nino, but that's better than most articles that ignore the issue. The main flaw is trying to generalize the 4 alpine countries, saying Switzerland and Austria have better infrastructure and more snowfall than France and Italy, when it's only Austria that has an overall edge in infrastructure. It's hard to generalize snowfall without getting too far into the weeds, but that was not the right way to do it.

St. Veran/Abries
I had to look this one up. Powderhounds likes it, though primary SW exposure means skiers should target late January/early February. I am surprised Vars-Risoul is neither reviewed by Powdershounds nor considered part of the Queyras region.
 
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I had to look this one up. Powderhounds likes it, though primary SW exposure means skiers should target late January/early February. I am surprised Vars-Risoul is neither reviewed by Powdershounds nor considered part of the Queyras region.
Despite going during a drought, I had a great day there. Correct, it's not part of Queyras, which I only understood once there (as Powderhounds noted: "its remote feel and many tunnels, gorges, mountains & castles").

LOL, they refer to the ski area as "cruisy," which has a slightly different meaning in U.S. urban centers. :icon-lol:
 
Did you all see this from the Ski Mag website? Seems to have some intelligent recommendations on some of the better European ski resorts to visit:
link

Agree.

For pure skiing, I do not think Chamonix and Zermatt are the best. Definitely the most scenic and famous. And if you are from (or frequent for skiing) CA, UT, or WA, you likely have an Ikon, and your decision is made for you.

I would always recommend Val d'Isère-Tignes or St. Anton-Arlberg as the best examples of massive Europlex skiing, with reliable snow, extensive terrain at any ability level, and overall scale.




I like a lot of his recommendations and other articles.



At first, I thought that it was only name-checking the Alps usual suspects covered by the two mega passes -- which Americans should certainly visit at some point -- however, it also called out a number of under-the-radar (for U.S. skiers) areas like St. Veran/Abries, Vars/Risoul, Via Lattea, Risoul, Monte Rosa, Courmayeur, La Thuile, Gressoney, Innsbruck, and Montgenevre that FTOers have positively reported on.

The author lives in La Grave for part of the year.

Because his home mountain is closed for 1-3 days per week due to weather, he has to travel to nearby local resorts in France and Italy. And, obviously, be well-versed in the entire French Alps and Italy's Aosta Valley.



When traveling to La Grave a years ago, I was potentially annoyed with reading about the substitute mountains (see below). Why would I travel to La Grave and get stuck at some place called Montgenèvre? WTH is that? Now I understand the microclimates of this section of the French Alps and can appreciate the list. Lots of under-rated skiing.


The Skier's Lodge

Beyond La Grave​

When conditions aren’t ideal, more than ten neighboring resorts in the southern French and Italian Alps are within 25 to 60 minutes by minibus, each with its own microclimate. These include Alpe d’Huez, Vaujany, Serre Chevalier, Montgenèvre, Sestriere, Claviere and Pragelato, all with steep slopes, deep snow and wonderful tree skiing.
 
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One article that was semi-useless was last year's Alps prediction for Winter 2025-26:


  • When: Early winter could be warmer and drier; later winter could become colder and wetter as Atlantic blocking weakens. February–March is a reasonable interpretation, though the author never explicitly recommends those months.
  • Where: Austria and the Eastern Alps could fare better if blocking diverts storms south from the north. That’s conditional, not a firm prediction that Austria will beat France or Switzerland.
  • Confidence: Low. The main seasonal model shows no clear overall precipitation signal for the Alps, and the article says La Niña offers little useful guidance there.



Forecasts Say This Is When Skiers Should Visit the Alps for the Best Snow This Winter​

Planning a trip to the Alps? Here's when (and where) forecasters expect snow.

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Updated September 29, 2025 12:41PM

This year, there are more reasons than ever to travel to the European Alps for a ski trip, with big savings on food, lodging, and more European resorts joining the Ikon and Epic Passes. There’s a lot about skiing in the Alps that can be expected, but as of recent years, the biggest factor, snow, has been a little hit or miss.


While we can expect delicious food and plenty of Aperol Spritzes on the slopes, can we also expect quality snow? We looked at several forecasting measures to try to figure out when and where the snow is going to fall this year.

The ECMWF—the European Centre for Medium-range Weather Forecasts—is the primary forecasting body in Europe, comparable to NOAA in the U.S. The latest September ECMWF seasonal ensemble, known as SEAS5, indicates no overall signal for winter precipitation in the Alps. More specifically, the model suggests that early winter could be warmer and drier, while mid-to-late winter could be colder and wetter.

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The best way to interpret this data is not to expect an average winter, but to expect a clean roll of the dice; there’s a 20 percent chance of getting either much more or much less precipitation than usual. These numbers should match the highest or lowest levels seen historically.

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The current model guidance indicates no precipitation signal in the Alps. (Photo: Photo courtesy of ECMWF)

Azores High​

Snowstorms in the Alps are categorized as large low-pressure systems that slide in from the Atlantic Ocean. A ridge of high pressure often sits to the west of continental Europe, known as the “Azores High”. This blocking high can route storms north, sometimes leaving the Alps dry, though it’s more likely to affect Portugal and Spain.

Model guidance currently suggests a stronger Azores High this winter, and the SEA5 does suggest this blocking high could diminish as winter progresses, hopefully opening up the storm door more.

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There are other ways in which storms can impact the Alps. For example, when the Azores High blocks storms from the west, the Eastern Alps can often fare better, as storms slide down from the north on the edge of the high pressure, missing the French, Swiss, and Italian Alps but brushing Austria. You can also get cut-off lows, Genoa lows, and convective snow showers, to name just a few.

All of these factors make long-term weather forecasting difficult in the Alps.

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In this chart depicting mean pressure, you can clearly see the blocking high pressure sitting on the Atlantic west of France and Spain. (Photo: Photo courtesy of ECMWF)

La Niña​

El Niño Southern Oscillation (ENSO), a phenomenon in the equatorial Pacific, is one of the most significant single predictors of global climate. This winter is forecast to reach weak La Niña status.

However, ENSO’s effects become much less pronounced as you move away from the Pacific, and Europe is on the opposite side of the world. That’s why the forecast signal is far weaker here than in North America. Looking back at past seasons, weak La Niña years have produced both good and bad snow years in the Alps. Simply put, ENSO is not a particularly reliable indicator in the Alps.

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Unfortunately, climate change has drastically increased the likelihood of above-average winter temperatures. Interestingly, the SEAS5 shows near-normal temperatures around the Alps, which would be cold compared to recent years, a positive sign for snow sticking around longer after big storms.

Polar Vortex​

The Arctic Oscillation (AO) is the area of atmospheric pressure containing the infamous Polar Vortex. Models may be picking up on a trend toward a negative AO, which would increase the probability of Arctic cold spilling south into the Alps this winter.

We often hear the term “Polar Vortex” during cold spells. It doesn’t just sound ominous, skiing, or simply existing, in North America can be brutal during these polar outbreaks. However, the Alps have a greater maritime influence from the Atlantic and Mediterranean, so we can use all the cold air we can get.

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Temperatures in the Alps are likely to be near-normal, which is as much as we can ask for these days. (Photo: Photo courtesy of ECMWF)
As always, I’m optimistic. Even “average” winters in the Alps feature plenty of memorable days. Personally, I’ll happily trade consistency over abundance when it comes to snow. Keep your fingers crossed, and we’ll keep you updated with the latest.
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Sergei Poljak may know his ski areas, but he's way outside his circle of competence trying to forecast winters in the Alps 3 months in advance. In fairness, we go through this every autumn, as tons of writers seeking clicks diligently shovel :bs: at us. Monkeys throwing darts could do just as well most of the time.
 
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