Gore Mtn, NY: 3/14 and 3/15/08

Harvey

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Ski Day 25

This is more of a Bomb Damage Assessment than a TR. I got up this morning in NJ when the baby woke up around 6:45 am. I fed her, and ran some Elmo while I packed, then gave her to her sleepy mother. :oops:

I got off by about 8 and got here at one. No stops, no food, no nothin. I really wanted to see the damage from the storm that took out power for 4 days here in Johnsburg. According to National Grid, 990 homes were without power for most of those 4 days. I'd be surprised if there are 2000 homes total in the whole town. (Johnsburg is 200 square miles, and over half wilderness, and maybe another 10% is Gore.)

I was pretty anxious driving up our road. As you got above 1500 feet, down trees and saw dust were everywhere. At the bottom of our driveway, the remains of two big white pines that had been cut up by the power company. Farther up there were three more I had to cut through. The path from the end of the driveway to the cabin had 4 or 5 more. Somehow, both our buildings sat there untouched. I had heard from my plow guy that "I survived" but I was still nervous as hell walking up that drive. 4 or 5 big branches were on the ground within a few feet of our main building.

It's a bit ridiculous I admit...we've got 5 acres, and if we cut down all the trees within 60 or 90 feet of both buildings, we wouldn't have nearly as many trees. Roger...my plow guy says..."you can always tell the flatlanders...they won't cut down their trees." So I've sized up every tree and branch that is close to the cabin, to decide if it would do damage if it fell. Crazy flatlanders.

I cut downed timber for about an hour and a half, to get the CRV up the hill and to clear the path. It was 2:30 and I realized that with the sun and temps in the upper 40s...the corn over at Gore might be better this afternoon than tomorrow or Sunday.

I threw my gear on and drove to the hill. I was surprised how many cars were in the lot. I heard a lot of French and other languages in the base area. Still there were no liftlines.

I got 5 runs in, in an hour. Pine Knot, Hawkeye, Cloud, Showcase and I finished with Twister at 4pm. The top was better...devoid of those really wet spots that can stop you dead. It was colder up there and the added pitch seems to drain the excess water better.

Conditions were pretty darn good. Carvable corn. I haven't really skied corned up groomers too much in my career. In fact I've done more corn groomers at Tahoe than in the east. It's was hard work teleying...but I knew I only had a few runs so I hit it hard.

Above 2500 feet, the trees were really ravaged. Some aspects were worse than others. Actually I expected worse, based on the damage I saw over at our place. I'd be very surprised if there was any more tree skiing at Gore this year. It makes me wonder too if the mountain will have the budget to clear it all out this summer.

Looks like I may have misled joe on the Gore bump contest. I didn't see anything that looked like a bump run on Hawkeye or anywhere else. What I did see was a bunch of snowmaking equipment lined up on Hawkeye, with no snowmaking temps in sight.

Not sure if I'll ski tomorrow or not. I got a bit more work to do with the saw. Then I'll either take off, or ski a few hours and book.

It's been a long day.
 

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Ski Day 26

My plan was to get up this morning, finish up some of the cleanup and head out, and maybe grab a few turns on the way out.

When I woke up... around 6:30...3 inches of dense new snow had fallen. I wasn't expecting it...local npr radio had called for a dusting to half an inch. I thought there must be more betta snow up higher...so ski day 26 was on.

Driving down to the Hudson...the snow turned to rain. But as I started to climb up the Gore access road, it went back to sleet.

It was a race day...cars in the parking lot and no space in the ski racks next to the Gondi. These racer kids must come with 5 pairs of skis. :roll:

I got on the Gondi as soon as it opened. At the top of Bear Mtn the snow was noticeably less manky, and more powdery. I wanted to wait for the rope to drop for the summit. But Skipat said that they were workin on the bump run for the contest on Sunday and it was going to be a while. I took a run to the bottom. Good move...Sunway was sweet. Anywhere that was untracked was better than carvable. If you looked back you could see your own rooster tails. The snow that fell was dense enough to cling to yesterday's corn. As I got closer to the bottom, the new snow got thinner and thinner...making me that much more anxious to get to the top, where I thought it should be deeper and fluffier.

Next Gondi ride...the rope to the summit had been dropped...and I ran it in the my usual counterclockwise order. Actually not quite. I usually take Pine Knot to the Summit Quad, but today I took Uncas...thinking the less obvious choice would have more fresh on it. Good call on my part. Just a little mank and a lot of energy to ski it. Next was Chatiemac, Hawkeye...over to the Dark Side...Hullabaloo, Open Pit to Lower Darby and then Little Santanoni. I didn't care about pitch...I just wanted untracked. Best was probably Open Pit to Lower Darby, as I was 2nd man through.

I took Headwaters down past the Quad, to Tannery. Rode the Topridge chair and then Topridge the trail. Plenty of untracked if you were willing to risk it all skiing in 6 feet at the side of the trail. It was all good.

Everything was in a fog, so I've got no pictures to speak of.

By 11 am I was outta there, and I got home to downtown NJ around 6pm. Coupla nice days, and a big relief to find out our place was ok. Not sure if I'll hit my goal of 35 ski days this year. It's been a good year, but I think we need just a bit more magic for this to be considered great, in our adk corner of the ice coast.
 

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nice report harv! glad the petite chateau is in one piece. get them 35 days in harv and come on up to the white's and walk with me to some good snow spaces in up high places with no other faces to meet our graces while untracked we chases. tomorrow will be day 75 for me, rugged touring for turns at nippo, oui, oui. we then go to northwood, for home shopping where a deal could be good, on my way to work, work i should. mon/tues for turns alpine, more untracked pow would be fine, terrain up there so devine. get yer ass up here harv, you freeheel, me alpine carve, the skiing will be marv!
rog
 
u didn't mislead me.... the way this season is going, there is no way to predict or assume anything...i compare this season to the last 5 months of the stock market....incredible volatility, with some huge up days but with more down days, on a general downward curve....im sure i'll get battled on that one , but if you look at the overall picture, i don't think it's been very good consistently...
 
joegm":25vdc0k8 said:
u didn't mislead me.... the way this season is going, there is no way to predict or assume anything...i compare this season to the last 5 months of the stock market....incredible volatility, with some huge up days but with more down days, on a general downward curve....im sure i'll get battled on that one , but if you look at the overall picture, i don't think it's been very good consistently...

The stock market analogy might be the best way to describe this season. After an amazing november-december it has been steadily declining interspersed with weeks of pretty good skiing. The good news is that the bases are still pretty good, which should make for a good spring season.
 
I think joegm and rfarren have it about right, though mixed ski seasons are in general better with early snow (this year) than late snow (last year).

And I think we need to make a distinction for our friends across the border. Quebec has escaped the rain/snow rollercoaster of New England the past few weeks and been as good as December from what I read here.
 
While I knew it was highly unlikely that Joe would make the trip to Gore for the Bump Contest, I threw it out there. I may have spoken too soon when I said there was no bump run in sight on Hawkeye...the single black where they usually have the contest.

I never really knew what "seeding" a bump run was. Sunday am they had taken what must have been a very small groomer and created a pattern that could be the foundation for bumps. It was very artfully done. I couldn't get a decent picture of it, as it was so darn foggy.

Because of the saturated condition of the base, that foundation included some major death cookies...more like death boulders...that I think still would need manmade or SOMETHING to make it skiable. They MAY have gotten what they needed last night...a few hours of 25 degrees F.

In relation to distinguishing between Canada and the US. Hey it's all the east. Just like some years where Colorado has a better or worse season than Oregon or somewhere else. For me, it's just not currently in my budget to ski my 35 days at other mountains with a prepaid place to say and lift ticket at Gore. One thing is for sure...Patrick is one of the most dedicated, fanatical skiers I've ever seen...he deserves the goods in his back yard sometimes too.

And with regard to the late, vs early season thing...First...this season ain't over yet. There's a deep base out there and multiple events on the horizon. If one of them goes foof...we are back in business. Gore may be the exception to that as I said earlier in this thread...the trees have suffered a ton of blowdown, that probably can't be cleared until summer.

Second...while it makes sense to me that a good early season should be more satisfying than a late season...in my head, if 07/08 ended today...I think last year was better. Not sure if this is some psychological effect or based on true quality. It may be how the snow fell...last year it seemed like most of the snow fell in 5 huge dumps between Feb 15 and April 15. This year has been a few moderate snowfalls (15") and multiple doses of 4-6."

Hey Tony - how does the "quality" rating of 2/14 - 4/15/07 compare to the best 8 week period this year?

And Ice - that's a great offer that I'd love to take you up on sometime.
 
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