Jay Peak, VT 11/17/07

J.Spin

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Larger versions of the pictures and data plots from the day can be seen by clicking on the images below, or using the link at the end of the report:

On Saturday morning we picked up a quick squall at that house that dropped 0.7 inches of upslope fluff and brought us to 2.9 inches of accumulation for our second valley snowfall event of the season. It freshened up the yard and did a decent job of erasing the boys’ sledding tracks from the previous evening, but it was pretty small potatoes compared to what had been going on in the higher elevations. Only a portion of the local ski areas were actually reporting snow totals, but as is often the case, Jay Peak was leading the pack with 16 new inches in the past 48 hours. That storm really looked like it had favored the northernmost parts of the state, and with Jay’s lift serviced skiing taking place only in the Stateside area, it seemed like a good chance to earn some turns on the Tram side.

I left the house around mid morning, with Mom and the boys just heading out for some more sledding in the yard. I was somewhat excited about the trip because it would be my first chance to explore the route from Waterbury to Jay Peak, and while for the most part I was expecting a straight shot up Route 100, there were a couple of options near the end of the route that might make it interesting. Combining the new route with the fact that it was still snowing at a decent clip was probably going to make for a bit of stressful driving, but then again I was in the Subaru passing through some potentially lightly-traveled roads, so it might also mean some fun driving.

The first half of my trip took me up to Morrisville, a route that I’m very familiar with, but beyond that it was into the wilds of Hyde Park, Eden, and Lowell, which I’ve visited much less frequently. Up through Morrisville, there was decent snowfall coming down, but the temperature was just a bit below freezing, the treated roads were just wet, and the snow wasn’t accumulating. Eden put an end to that. While Eden doesn’t have any huge peaks, the whole area is at a relatively high elevation of 1,000’ or more, and boy do they get the snow. They’d already received a good 6 to 8 inches of snow, putting their accumulation on par with some of the mountain areas, and the snow was coming down hard enough that even Route 100 was getting slushy. When I hit Eden Notch at around 1,500’, the increased intensity of the snowfall and the notable accumulation of snow on the road had me wondering what in the world was going on at Jay Peak. Finally, as I descended from the Notch, I got a slight reprieve in the road conditions. That lasted for just a bit until I followed a sign for Jay Peak that took me onto a couple of rather secondary roads (North Hill Road/Cross Road). The roads had seen a lot less attention than Route 100 so they had quite a bit of snow on them, but there weren’t any major hills and before I knew it I popped out in the four corners in the Village of Jay. From there it was just a quick trip up Route 242 to the resort.

The snowfall had re-intensified as I’d ascended to the resort. In the tram parking lot it was really coming down and was accompanied by some of that Jay Peak wind. My car thermometer read 23 F, which was actually quite a comfortable temperature as long as the wind wasn’t going to be an issue. There were about a dozen other cars in the tram parking lot, comprised of what appeared to be a few people visiting the ski shop and some picking up their season passes. I had brought my Betacarves and appropriate skins in case the snow wasn’t deep enough to comfortably use my CMH fats, but it was quickly obvious that no rock skis were needed. Jay Peak had received a ton of new snow.

I geared up and headed past the lodge to check out the snow. I could immediately see that Jay peak had received a really healthy dose in the previous couple of days. I stuck my calibrated ski pole in the snow and the first reading I got was 21 inches. OK, that was a drift, but when I actually got going out into the are of more representative snowpack above the lodge, my measurements consistently delivered numbers between 13 and 15 inches of loose snow. I quickly searched around for a skin track to take upward, but unfortunately found none. So, I made my own. I headed up the lift line of the Metro Quad, a location which nicely shielded me from the wind. When I’d occasionally assess my progress up the lift line, it felt like I was going nowhere. I figured I was just tired from a busy week, but as I neared the upper station of the lift, I realized why my progress felt slow. I probed the snow depth about 3/4 of the way to the top of the Metro Quad, and found that the 13-15 inches of snow I’d started out in had already grown to 18-20 inches. I was now blazing a pretty deep trench through the powder, and as the pitch had increased near the top of the lift line, the slow going had been more obvious. I heard voices above and to the right of me, which sounded like a group of riders on the trails above the Metro Quad. At that point I was actually hopeful that someone else was touring in the tram area, because above the top station of the Metro Quad, the terrain was about to get steeper still, and even a single-pass skin track would be a big help in making better time.

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I finally crested the unloading area of the Metro Quad, and although I didn’t see the riders I’d heard (they appeared to have traversed across at the top of the Metro Quad and headed off toward the Stateside area) at least there were some tracks. One traverse/skin track cut across the mountain, and I briefly checked both sides to see which end headed up. It turned out to be the more northerly end of the track that headed upwards, and unfortunately it wasn’t a skin track, but simply a downtrack from the riders. I could see that the riders had descended on the “Racer” trail, which was quite steep even though it’s only rated as a blue. I suspect it would be a black diamond trail at many ski areas. There were about four tracks on the trail, and the steep turns in the deep snow looked sublime. The trail was far steeper than I would typically choose for skinning, but a track is a track, and even with the steep pitch it was going to be easier than any alternative I could see. I locked up my highest heel lifters and headed up.

Using the downtracks really helped me increase my pace of skinning. I picked the most appropriate crisscrossing combination of tracks for my use, and the apexes of the turns in which the riders had pressured the snow were the most helpful. Between the turns, where the unweighting had taken place, the climbing was typically more difficult for a few steps. Even with the full-width skins on the CMH fats I would occasionally slip a little on the combination of steep pitch and loose snow. The snow depth continued to increase as I ascended, and on Racer my probing revealed depths of 20-24 inches, and sometimes even deeper. The measurement marks on my ski pole actually only go up to 23 inches, which is just the length of tape that I stuck on there when I made it. I guess I’ll have to extend those measurements for skiing in these parts. When I’d left home that morning, Jay Peak was still reporting just 16 inches of new snow in the previous 48 hours, and they eventually added an additional 6 on the day I was there for a total of 22. So as far as the claims of over reporting snowfall that are often made of the mountain, I once again fail to see it in action first hand.

I crested the top of Racer and got to watch a group of skiers coming down the steep part of Upper Exhibition. Their turns looked great, although the powder looked to ski a bit heavier than what I would have suspected after hiking up in it. I continued my upward trek by taking Green Mountain boys, which wasn’t quite as steep as Racer and made for easier going. Beyond that point I actually started to get into some wind scoured terrain, which made the going much easier. I continued on up for another 10 minutes or so in the area of the Green Mountain Flyer lift line using the Upper Goat Run and Upper Exhibition trails, but found mostly scoured or wind-packed snow, so once I hit the point where the lift line flattened out (~3,200’) I decided to head down.

After skiing a bit of packed snow on the mellower parts of Upper Exhibition, I cut right onto Lower Goat Run and immediately hit pay dirt in terms of powder. It was bottomless and deep, even if it wasn’t Vermont “Champlain Powder” light. But it is mid November so it’s probably not time to get too picky yet. I cut left onto Lower River Quai, which I’d seen was untracked when I was heading up, and then continued down Interstate right back to the tram base area. The route wasn’t quite as steep as the runs like Racer and Exhibition, but it was just me, a big untracked swath of powder, and dozens and dozens of powder turns. ‘Twas certainly a decent reward for a bit of skinning. If I’d had more time and wanted to make a few laps (especially since my skin track was in place) the sweet spot of the tour to hit would be that ~500 vertical feet of steep terrain above the top of the Metro Quad on trails like Upper Exhibition, Racer, and Green Mountain Boys.

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The snowfall had really tapered off by the time I headed home, and out past the village of Jay, I could see that the mountain was even emerging from its cloud. I managed to take the Route 101 option that I had initially planned to use, so I got some of the flavor of the route without the North Hill Road/Cross Road shortcut. In terms of vertical for the tour, the Avocet recorded a descent of 1,430’ and the Suunto recorded a descent of 1,447’ for a difference of 1.2%, with the GPS recording a descent of 1,404’

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Larger versions of the pictures and data plots from the day can be found at:

http://www.jandeproductions.com/2007/17NOV07.html

J.Spin
 
Good Stuff!

What was great last week was being able to combine lift access and earned turns into your day... Hopefully we'll get some more snow for tomorrow... IF not, we'll be carving down the Jet on saturday!
 
The ski pole that can also be used to measure snow depths is a great idea, I wonder why this is the first time I have seen it.
Well, i do live in the mid-west :roll:

Great report!
 
BigJay":suglkvqr said:
What was great last week was being able to combine lift access and earned turns into your day...
That's definitely a great way to spend a day. I suspect some of the riders I saw when I was skiing over in the tram area were coming over from Stateside on Montrealer and seemed to be heading back there on Perry Merrill Ave etc. (especially since I found no skin/hiking tracks heading up from the tram area). If I had my season pass at Jay Peak, I certainly would have taken that approach as well. I'm not sure what the ticket price was last Saturday, but with such good snow and practical hiking options, even purchasing a day ticket might have been a decent value for spending the day with a combination of lift-served and some earned turns.

J.Spin
 
mikesathome":3tdj3dig said:
The ski pole that can also be used to measure snow depths is a great idea, I wonder why this is the first time I have seen it.
I’ve never actually seen anyone else use a measurement ski pole before, but it seemed so obvious and I’d thought about creating one for years. I finally got around to making it last January for our backcountry ski trip to Camel’s Hump State Park, and it really took all of five minutes in the kitchen as we were heading out the door. I just threw a strip of white electrical tape on my pole and marked it off with a black Sharpie pen using a ruler/yardstick lined up with the tip. I’ve only added pictures of it a couple of times in my previous reports that I can think of:

1/21/07 report: http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards ... php?t=2707

4/13/07 report: http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards ... php?t=3240

However, I use it all the time. I find it especially great for earned turns because you can get a real sense of the depth of the powder throughout your tour with essentially no extra effort. When I’m using it, I try to keep the tape facing away from me so my ski edges don’t cut it up, but even then, a quick rotation of the wrist lets you check the powder depth right in stride while you’re skinning/hiking. I think most people don’t care about how much snow they’re skiing in, or at least they don’t care about the numbers, which is probably why I haven’t seen other people using this setup. I do enjoy knowing the numbers, partly because of my analytical nature and the winter weather/snowfall fan in me, but I also find it useful for creating informative trip reports.

Thanks to your comment reminding me of it, and after going off the top of the scale (which maxed out at only 23 inches) several times on my Jay Peak tour the other day, I was inspired to finally fill in the gaps in the calibrations at the top and the bottom of the pole. Here’s a picture of the updated pole:

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The bottom end of the scale below ~8 or 9 inches had previously worn away a bit from ski edge contact, and it was nice to have it back again going down to ~2-3 inches. I used it for a tour up at Bolton Valley on Sunday (report still to come) where the powder was only in the 2 to 6-inch range outside of more drifted stuff, and it was very useful. With the improved top end, the scale now goes up to 38 inches, which should be fine for most days even around here.

J.Spin
 
You are probably a bit optimistic going all the way up to 38" but it certainly could happen! :lol: I always ski with my touring poles that have 5cm marks but they end above the basket and are going the reverse direction. I keep thinking about doing the math so I can reference a mark on my pole and be able to convert that to the snow depth amount. Would really take very minimal work up front to create a small chart to reference when I got home.
 
riverc0il":3pc16slj said:
You are probably a bit optimistic going all the way up to 38" but it certainly could happen!
Yeah, the 38" point just happened to be as far as I could go before I hit my reserve duct tape roll, so that's why it ended up there. It's not so much that it will be useful for individual storms, since 3+ foot storms only happen every so often. But, I have found that unconsolidated snow can get pretty deep in the backcountry when several storms come through and there aren't any thaws between them. Many times I've put my pole down into the snow to check for a real "base" layer, and the depth has been more than the entire pole. I can even remember a backcountry trip to Eden, VT in February of 2000 where we were sticking our poles down into the snow to check the depth up in the Lowell Mountains, and not only would the pole disappear, but you could keep pushing down until your whole arm would disappear up to your shoulder and still not hit the bottom! I don't think I have a First Tracks!! version of that trip report, but here's the one from our web page:

http://www.jandeproductions.com/2000/20FEB00.html

Unfortunately I don't have a still shot of anyone checking the snow depth in that report, but you can get an idea of the snowpack from the pictures. I believe I do have a video shot of Dave sticking his pole and arm all the way down into the snow in our movie from the year, I'll have to take a look to see if it made the final cut. The 1999-2000 season wasn't even extraordinary or anything, at least from what I can see in the Mt. Mansfield snowpack data (especially relative to 2000-2001 - see attached image) but we probably just had a few weeks of snow without a thaw that let the snowpack build up without any really hard layers. So I'm sure the extra length will come in handy for that sort of stuff. And then of course there are always drifts to measure ;).

J.Spin
 

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