Jay Peak, VT - 12/23/05 - 12/24/05

kcyanks1

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Date(s) Skied: 12/23/05 (full day) -12/24/05 (until 1pm)

Resort or Ski Area: Jay Peak, VT

Conditions:
12/23 - Powder, packed powder; hard packed on manmade/windblown trails
12/24 - Crust on top, powder underneath, packed powder; hard packed on mandmade/windblown trails

Weather - overcast and foggy with very poor visibility on the trails, especially higher up, both days. On 12/23 it wasn't quite precipitating, but my goggles would ice up all the time. That didn't happen on 12/24. Temperatures were comfortable, but there was no sun, making it feel cooler.

Trip Report:

Only my second trip to Jay and the other was in March, so i can't compare it to what Jay might normally be like at this time, but there was a lot of snow. I skied almost every open glade (sorry ahead of time for any spelling errors) including Vahalla, BP, BBP, Deliverance, Everglade, Timbucktu, Vertigo, Buckaroo Bonzai, Stateside Glade, North Glade, Hells Woods, Kitz woods, and probably a couple I'm missing. Staircase was closed. The glades were all generally well-covered, though I did hit some rocks or stumps at some point in most of them. The ones that were particularly rocky were Deliverance and the upper portions of Everglade. The others were in better shape. All had lots of snow though. The glades were pretty skied out, but for someone who isn't great in deep snow, that was fine. There was plenty of fairly soft snow, though certainly not light powder. The second day (12/24) had a crust over the snow, but that crust was probably less noticeable in the glades, and became less of an issue as the day progressed (and I stopped at 1pm because of the long drive home).

The conditions on the trails were pretty similar, except the crust on 12/24 was more noticeable on the trails than in the glades. All were open except the Face Chutes and Tuckermans. The cover on the trails was generally very good (and as good as I could have hoped at this time of year), though there were very rocky areas on some of the natural snow trails like the tops of Green Beret and Upper River Quai, and scattered rocks on some of the others trails.

If people have specific questions about specific trails I can do my best to answer, but it's all starting to blur together.

As normal I didn't have a camera with me, so sorry for the lack of pics.
 
I was there on saturday and I concur with your report.

The snow first thing in the morning was interesting. On the trails it was crusty, but in the woods it was like cream cheese, which was actually quite delicious. It coated the trails and trees with white and beckoned us to put our signatures on it. Fat skis make skiing that stuff quite pleasureable.

Visibility was nil at the top of the Tram and Bonaventure, but once you get into the woods it was much better. With the weather that day, the woods was the only place to be.

When we had arrived at the ticket booth at 10am, there was a couple asking for a refund because they thought the conditions were misrepresented in the snow report. The report said there was new snow and a bit of drizzle but that did not affect the conditions. Well, they did have a point, the drizzle did affect the conditions. I certainly didn't think that it was terrible or bad, but it definitely was not powder like it was the day before. They had a point, and Jay made good and gave them a voucher for another day. They were locals from Richmond.

I thought the skiing was very good and quite enjoyable. I found it shocking that anyone would think it wasn't worth the price of a lift ticket (and they had a 2 for 1 deal). I think those people expected too much and really didn't deserve the refund, but good business gives the customer the benefit of the doubt and ensured that they will come back, though they had just sold a $30 lift ticket to someone who will use it when the lift tickets are full price.

-Sh
 
Sharon":1nl9cdhf said:
I was there on saturday and I concur with your report.

The snow first thing in the morning was interesting. On the trails it was crusty, but in the woods it was like cream cheese, which was actually quite delicious. It coated the trails and trees with white and beckoned us to put our signatures on it. Fat skis make skiing that stuff quite pleasureable.

Visibility was nil at the top of the Tram and Bonaventure, but once you get into the woods it was much better. With the weather that day, the woods was the only place to be.

When we had arrived at the ticket booth at 10am, there was a couple asking for a refund because they thought the conditions were misrepresented in the snow report. The report said there was new snow and a bit of drizzle but that did not affect the conditions. Well, they did have a point, the drizzle did affect the conditions. I certainly didn't think that it was terrible or bad, but it definitely was not powder like it was the day before. They had a point, and Jay made good and gave them a voucher for another day. They were locals from Richmond.

I thought the skiing was very good and quite enjoyable. I found it shocking that anyone would think it wasn't worth the price of a lift ticket (and they had a 2 for 1 deal). I think those people expected too much and really didn't deserve the refund, but good business gives the customer the benefit of the doubt and ensured that they will come back, though they had just sold a $30 lift ticket to someone who will use it when the lift tickets are full price.

-Sh

The drizzle (whenever it happend - I never actually noticed precipitation reaching the ground on Friday, just my goggles :-) ) did affect the conditions. I kind of expected Saturday would be crusty based on what was happening Friday, but the glades survived very well, and the trails did improve throughout the day, and as I said, I left early. Like you said, though, while not a huge deal, the report could be misleading. Tthey are in fact now saying on their sight that the rain they just got didn't effect the surfaces--likely an exaggeration, but I'm not there. Good customer service to give the refunds though.

Something I forgot to mention in my original report: The mountain was completely empty both days. On Saturday they were setting up lift corridors as if they expected a crowd, but if I waited 1 chair it was a lot, and I'm not exaggerating at all. Most of the time it was ski right to the chair.
 
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