Loon Mtn, 12-8/9- plus bonus racer anecdote

joegm

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WED: CLOUDY- ABOUT 30 AT BASE.. 25 SUMMIT?PRETTY WINDY WHICH ENDED UP FACTORING IN ABOUT 2PM AS THE GONDY CRAWLED TO A SNAILS PACE FOR THE DURATION? 1 AND ½ WAYS DOWN? UPPER PICKED OFF THE G TO LOWER PICKED OR UPPER BEAR CLAW?. TUES NIGHT SAW THEM GET ABOUT 3 OF HEAVY WET SLOP WHICH FORMED A THICK TOP COVER OVER THE ROCK HARD- HARD PACK..FLAT AND FAST SUMS IT UP.. NO RACE TEAMS BUT THE MAIN LOT WAS ABOUT ½ FULL BY 10 AM? THEY WERE BLOWING NO SNOW?
THURS: SIGNIFICANTLY WARMER.. UPPER THIRTIES AT THE SUMMIT AND BITS OF BLUE SKY BY ABOUT 10 AM?SAME 1 AND ½ TRAILS DESPITE THE WEB PAGE CLAIMS?.BUT BY 12 NOON THEY DROPPED THE ROPE LEADING INTO THE GRAND JUNCTION AND LOWER BEAR CLAW SAW THE FIRST TURNS OF 2005 SEASON.. THIS REALLY HELPED OUT BLEEDING OFF THE TRAFFIC FROM LOWER PICKED. ( IT DID NOT HOWEVER HELP ENOUGH FOR THE NEW HAMPTON RACERS, AS U WILL HEAR ABOUT. ) THE WATER CONTENT OF THE PREVIOUS SNOW FROZE UP AND THE SURFACE WAS NOW 100% FROZEN GRAN ON A HP BASE.. MOUNDS OF FRZ G IN AREAS AND PURE SLICK IN OTHER MADE FOR CHALLENGING TURNS ON OCCASION FOR SURE.. THE SNOW ON LOWER BEAR CLAW WAS OBVIOUSLY A LITTLE BETTER , BUT SURFACES BY 2PM WERE PRETTY CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT
ASSESSMENT: THEY ARE DOING THE BEST THEY CAN, I THINK.. THE WEATHER HAS NOT SUPPORTED AN EXPANSION? THEY NEED THE WEATHER AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WANT A DUMP TO REALLY GET IT FIRED UP,?SUNSET APPEARS READY TO SKI BUT NONE OF THE NORTH PEAK TRAILS SEEM CLOSE SO RUNNING THE NEW q WOULD NOT SEEM TO BE WORTH IT.. THEY WERE LOAD TESTING THE NEW q ALL DAY ON THURS? THERE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN A SUBSTANTIAL THINNING OF AT LEAST 2 DISTINCT LINES ON BLACK MOUNTAIN OFF THE TOP OF THE NORTH PEAK.. VERY VISIBLE TO THE EYE ON THE WAY UP THE G? IT WON?T MATTER TO THE AVERAGE LOONIE TUNE BUT ANYONE WHO KNOWS WHERE IT IS MAY BE ENCOURAGED, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT NEW Q SPINNING IN UNDER 5 MIN?THAT?S ALL I?M GONNA SAY LEAST THE BARK EATERS OF THE PENGUIN CLUB PUT OUT A CONTRACT ON ME
NOW I?LL MAKE THIS QUICK SO AS NOT TO BE ACCUSED OF GLOATING, BUT HERE GOES?
THE FOLLOWING IS PRESENTED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY? ANY ATTEMPTS TO CONNECT THE FOLLOWING ANECDOTE WITH THE THEORY HELD BY SOME THAT RACERS AND THEIR COACHES ARE ARROGANT, OUT OF CONTROL SNOTS WHO NEED TO BE LASHED TO A TREE AND THRASHED IS PURELY COINCIDENTAL?
DATELINE : THURSDAY- CIRCA 1PM.. THE USUAL SUSPECTS FROM NEW HAMPTON PULL IN ON THEIR BUS AND BY 1:30 ARE OUT WREAKING HAVOC ON THEE NOW 2 TRAILS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE BOTTOM?.AS I MENTIONED EARLIER , THE NEW Q WAS BEING LOAD TESTED ALL DAY AND THE CO GM OF THE PLACE WAS OUT AND ABOUT ON THE SNOWMOBILE ALL DAY BACK AND FORTH FROM BASE LODGE TO CAMP 3?.SKIP AHEAD TO ABOUT 3PM? THE OUTRUN OF LOWER PICKED IS PURE BOILERPLATE IN ADDITION TO BEING NO MORE THAN ABOUT 25 FEET WIDE?.NEW HAMPTON DECIDES THAT IT MIGHT BE FUN TO RUN A ONE LEGGED SKI DRILL? NOT 2 SKIS ON THE FEET AND ONLY USING ONE? BUT RATHER LOADING ONTO THE GONDOLA WITH ONLY ONE SKI AND SKIING WITH ONLY ONE SKI ON ONE FOOT WITH NO POLES?.DROPPING INTO THE HEADWALL OF THE PICKED ROCK OUTRUN, I HEAR A LOUD ENGINE REVVING AND AROUND THE CORNER, HUGGING THE SKIERS LEFT TRAIL EDGE COMES A SLED WITH 2 OCCUPANTS? I RECOGNIZE THE SHOTGUN GUY AS THE CO GM, WE?LL CALL HIM R.L?. AS I USUALLY DO WHEN I SEE A SLED OUT THIS EARLY IN THE SEASON ON A LIVE TRAIL, I SLOW DOWN AND STOP AND LET IT GO BY?AND BY IT GOES, AND BY ME COMES A WILD PACK OF ONE LEGGED SKIERS , ONE AT A TIME, ABOUT 2 SUPER G TURNS APART :evil: :roll: ? I DON?T MOVE AN INCH AS THE SHAKINESS OF THESE DONKEYS PROMPTS ME TO TAKE THE SAFE ALTERNATIVE AND LET EM GO BY?. AFTER THE 10 OR SO ONE GOES BY I PUSH OFF ONLY TO HEAR AGAIN THE REV OF A SLED ENGINE FROM BEHIND ME, NOW ROARING BACK DOWN THE HILL SAME 2 OCCUPANTS? PAST ME THEY ROAR, AND THEN I FOLLOW? AS I PULL INTO THE BASE AREA I SEE MY BUDDY GIL WAVING ME OVER AND POINTING AT THE NOW STATIONARY SLED. R.L THE GM IS HALF WAY OFF THE BACK SEAT. HE CONTINUES HIS DISMOUNT AND WITH A FINGER WAVING, BEGINS A BEELINE FOR ONE OF THE HEAD JACKASS COACHES OF NEW HAMPTON WHO WAS JUST SUPERVISING THE LITTLE ONE LEGGED JIG THAT JUST TOOK PLACE?.NOW THERE IS KNOW WAY I AM GOING TO PASS THIS UP SO I ADJUST MY LINE AND HEAD RIGHT TOWARDS NOW WHAT APPEARS TO BE A QUITE ANIMATED ONE WAY DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE HEAD OF THE HILL AND THE HEAD OF THE JACKASSES?.AND THE ONE WAY BELONGED TO THE HEAD OF THE HILL? WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER WAS THE ONE OF THE LITTLE ONE LEGGED BRATS DECIDED THAT THE SNOWMOBILE GOT IN THE WAY OF HIS LINE THAT HE WAS ( TRYING ) TO SKI AND HE DIDN?T LIKE IT ONE BIT? SO THE YOUNG LAD DECIDES TO LET OUT A YELP WITH A QUOTE OF ? "WATCH OUT U EFFIN EH HOLE ? AND TOPS THAT WITH A NELSON ROCKEFELLER RIGHT HANDED SALUTE :shock: ?. WELL R.L APPARENTLY DIDN?T TAKE TO KINDLY TO BEING CALLED THAT PART OT THE HUMAN ANATOMY AND DECIDED TO HAVE A LITTLE CHAT :evil: ?MOST OF US HUMANS HAVE ONE OF THE PARTS OF THE ANATOMY THAT WAS USED AS AN ADJECTIVE BY THE YOUNG SCHOLAR FROM NEW HAMPTON TO DESCRIBE THE GM OF LOON MOUNTAIN? BY THE TIME THE GM OF LOON MOUNTAIN GOT DONE WITH THE COACH OF NEW HAMPTON, I THINK THE COACH HAD 2 OF EM :shock: , IF I KNOW WHAT I MEAN?.WE HAD A SMILE ON OUR FACES THE WHOLE RIDE BACK THAT NIGHT 8) 8) 8) 8) ?.? GIVE THE KIDS A BREAK? GIVE THE KIDS A BREAK ? SAYS OUR MAN LFTGLY ?. GIVE ME A BREAK? :roll:
 
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...AND TOPS THAT WITH A NELSON ROCKEFELLER RIGHT HANDED SALUTE :shock: ?. WELL R.L APPARENTLY DIDN?T TAKE TO KINDLY TO BEING CALLED THAT PART OT THE HUMAN ANATOMY AND DECIDED TO HAVE A LITTLE CHAT :evil: ?MOST OF US HUMANS HAVE ONE OF THE PARTS OF THE ANATOMY THAT WAS USED AS AN ADJECTIVE BY THE YOUNG SCHOLAR FROM NEW HAMPTON TO DESCRIBE THE GM OF LOON MOUNTAIN? BY THE TIME THE GM OF LOON MOUNTAIN GOT DONE WITH THE COACH OF NEW HAMPTON, I THINK THE COACH HAD 2 OF EM :shock:
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waddaya mean kill the messenger? that's one of the funniest rants on FTO since the new forum debuted! that and chormers McTrails rants, keep em' coming!
 
I want to do an expierment.
Next time I go to Loon(which may be never), i'm going to try to board a lift with only one ski. I bet they wont let me ride.
Nice rant joegm!
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Joegm,

I was barely able to stop laughing in order to type this. Thanks for reminding me once again why I go out of my way to read FOL.

Rick
 
I'm sitting here in a pizza joint in Vergennes, returning from Jay and thanks, thanks a lot, Joe! Thanks for forcing root beer up through the straw and out through my nose! ;-)

More to follow on the weekend festivities after I get back home, but suffice it to say that I'm walking around like a zombie right now!
 
Just let it go, joe. I'm disappointed you feel the need to bash me in your Loon thread. The NBS is about the skiing.

You are welcome to disagree with my opinions or others; that keeps the threads interesting. I was amused reading your rant until your closing statement. Was that necessary? Although tempting to ridicule you in return, why go there? I apologize if you took my 'give them a break' remark in the other thread as an insult directed at you. It certainly wasn't meant that way.

99% of those kids in FSC are great kids (I can't vouch for New Hampton). Like any group of kids (or adults), there are a few bad kids (and maybe a bad coach or 2). When someone attacks all of FSC because of the actions of a few, I say 'give 'em a break'.

The 'human slalom' is all relative. The complaints about the HS remind me of George Carlin's comedy routine about drivers. Anyone driving slower than you is always an a****** when you have to pass them, Anyone driving faster than you is a f****** maniac when they pass you. Is every one who passes you a wreckless skier endangering everyone on the trail? No, the majority pass safely.

We have all posted reports that include whining about the negative part of a ski day. That's the 'No Bull' part. It takes the fun out of skiing (or reading a thread) if all we do is constantly focus on the negative. What do you think those New Hampton kids would say about you if they were to reply in this thread? Would anyone really want to read it?

Some days suck so bad, that any paying customer should ask for their money back; the mountain probably shouldn't have been open; and the NBS report should tell it like it is. But life is too short, we ought to try to find something positive in every day. After years reading your reports bitching about one resort or another, why do you keep going back if skiing is such punishment?

Skip the personal attacks, try to keep it a little more positive, and let's just keep writing about the skiing.
 
As abc?s Keith Jackson used to say .. ? whoa Nellie ?? lftgly u gotta calm down.
Dude, there was no personal attack, and there never has been? it was a dig? I toss digs out all the time when I think they are deserved? I get digs tossed at me? riverciol and I go at it all the time here, but I have no doubt steve and I could ski all day and throw a few back at the end of the day.. You don?t have to apologize to me for taking any insult ? cause I didn?t ?I took u saying ? give the kids a break? as a funny statement that had no context to it all.. I based my words strictly on what I experience first hand.. and my experience with 3 different race programs, New Hampton, and to a much lesser extent Holderness and Killington mountain school. When I used to ski burke more that I do now, we obviously had to deal with those kids too.. ( never had a problem with the way those kids conducted themselves at all, btw, but that probably had to do with the fact that they pretty much had their own lift and trail )?my experiences with new Hampton have pretty much been 100% negative due to their repeated unreasonable behavior on the hill at loon? and I know for a fact that this outfit is on the s**t list at loon? but I also know it?s all about the money, so I know the management at loon is struggling to justify the current situation?.the fact is the average recreational skier does not know much about the inner workings of resort operations and therefore is more apt to see some thing that is unreasonable as normal? the average person certainly is not going to go into a gm?s office and pound the desk and demand an explanation about something unless that something is , in their mind, so ridiculous that they are driven to do so?but that fact doesn?t change the fact that there is plenty of unreasonable behavior that goes unchecked.. ie New Hampton, quite often. The ski patrol at loon feels that their job is strictly to respond to man or woman down calls and haul busted up skiers of the hill? I know this is a fact about them from various sources and former members of the patrol?.that?s an issue for another day, but the point is , loon?s patrol is very little help in trying to keep things from getting out of hand? I can?t comment on the contention that 99% of the kids in the fsc are great kids? I don?t know 99% of them? I do know a few from new Hampton and I know one in particular who felt the need to call the gm of loon an a** hole and give him the finger?if my general use of the word ?racers? is taken to condemn 100% of the racers out there, then I should be more specific? your human sl point about things being relative is dubious?. A one legged ski drill on one of 2 open trails at a place like loon and it?s average typical recreational skier is not relative? it?s insane and it?s indefensible by all except a waterholder for the offender(s)... i can't even believe i am defending this... yes lftgly, anyone who passes me on a trail, skiing on one ski with a jimmy leg :shock: shake, that is jammed with recreational skiers who are on 2 skis and have just as much of the jimmy legs going :shock: , is a reckless skiers, and ought to get their head of their ass?what do I think the new Hampton kids would say if they read this on the site?? I?d tell you , but based on how I heard the little terror from new Hampton speaking to the GM last week I can?t, because I think marc tries to run a clean family page here?and frankly, why on god?s green earth should I care what one of the ? kids ? would think? as far as a little more positivity? if I want positive spin , I?ll go to killington.com, or loonmtn.com or what everskihill.com for the late breaking bull-cookie positivity report :roll: ?.as far as your implication that my reports are all about complaints, I have never ripped a place for something they cannot control ( ie the weather, too much hardpack, lack of open terrain due to weather ) .. and I defy you to find one of my posts that does?.it?s called the no bulls dude? there is a reason for that? I will call em out for things they can? ski academy groups breaking their written agreements, not aggressively keeping the lid on out of hand skiers, lazy ski patrollers?there is a reason for that? why do I keep going back if skiing is such punishment? :? .. that?s a silly question as it?s premise has no validity at all?.if that?s your interpretation, that I?m being punished, there is nothing I can do about it, but I can assure you that I do not go skiing every single week from nov to may and feel like I am being punished?.there wasn?t, and never has been a personal attack? the reports will be positive when warranted and calling out new Hampton IS writing about the skiing
 
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