Agree with Frontrange: Holiday Valley has the most vertical in the area, which is about 800 feet vertical - that's about as good as it gets. <BR> <BR>If you're willing to mosey east one hour to the south of Rochester, there is Bristol Mt. which I believe has some 1000 feet of vertical. From what I recall (23 years ago) there was a very good "fishbowl" trail under the lift that was all moguls. <BR> <BR>When I used to live there I always was saddened by the fact that in the east, that area east of Lake Erie always had way too much snow and way too little vertical to do anything with. <BR> <BR>Maybe we could get Donald Trump to truck in a mountain of soil. That would make for a helluva resort....