Tony Crocker":3ij7skuh said:
sbooker":3ij7skuh said:
Northstar California (Our first 'big mountain' ski experience. We quickly worked out skiing in Oz and NZ was second rate by comparison)
Presumably sbooker is less impressed by Northstar now that he has been around both North America and the Alps some more. I'll take Treble Cone or Mt. Hutt in full operation over Northstar any day. Unfortunately Mt. Hutt's advanced/expert terrain was off limits both of my days there.
sbooker covered a lot of ground on that Alps trip this season, as much as any of ours. We never heard any details though. I see a lot of time in the Dolomites (Cortina plus Sella Ronda), which were very lean on natural snow this season. Did the vaunted snowmaking live up to its billing? Were all pistes open? Was there a lot of frozen granular from skier traffic on nearly all manmade snow? At least the Aosta and Austrian areas had plenty of natural snow on that trip.
Did EMSC live in the Southeast sometime to get those obscure places?
My lost area list consists of just Kratka Ridge in the traditional sense of a no longer exiting ski area in any form. Montana Backcountry Adventures and CAT Powder skiing are defunct snowcat operations whose terrain was taken over by lift service, Moonlight Basin and Revelstoke respectively. Chisenupuri is the opposite, lift served when I skied there in 2011; the lift is now shut down but the terrain is used for cat skiing.
Rambling post incoming.
We have never skied NZ in great conditions and if we did in the early days we weren’t up to taking advantage of the advanced terrain.
Northstar was an eye opener for us. Those long blue runs lined with conifers on lovely snow was what we then thought was as good as it gets. Of course my kids were just 4 and 6 and myself and my wife were even more intermediate than we are now so anything more would have been lost on us.
The year later we went to Mammoth in late March. It started snowing late on the afternoon we pulled into the Alpenhof and didn’t stop snowing until the next night. It was the first time we saw a big dump of snow but we didn’t do it justice. That was the trip that got us hooked though. We were impressed by how steep some of the runs were and we loved you could be at one end of the mountain without being able to see the other.
Because of the distance we are from the snow and my reluctance to take lessons for fear of ‘missing out’ on ski time while being ‘stuck’ in lessons we spent plenty of time on groomers for the next couple of years. Even so we went to some great areas and we now realise Northstar is second rate itself in comparison to some of our favourites. We have great memories but some are particularly special. Spending a few days going up and down the Symphony and Harmony areas of Whistler (where the kids first took to skiing off the groomers), Mineral Basin at Snowbird, a snowy day at a virtually deserted Sacajawea side of Grand Targhee and a day at Sun Valley in early 2017 where we lapped a lift on the Warm Springs side for hours in uncontested powder will remain etched in our memories.
Europe was great. We got lucky with snow in the Zillertal on the day we got there. After that first day skiing powder we woke for the second day skiing. My daughters reaction (“Dad they flattened all the soft snow”) probably sums up why we think North American skiing is more suited to us. We like to ski as a family and my wife prefers groomers so hiring a guide and avi gear is wasted. It’s much easier for us to be able to jump on a lift where there is safe ungroomed terrain with a groomer close by. That said the scenery and vastness of the ski areas more than impressed us.
We only skied at Cortina because we had to take a taxi to Passo Falzarego to ski the Hidden Valley run (Emily was dying to do the horse tow thing). Just across the road from the cable car was the lift to the Cinque Torri area so we spent some time there. The Dolomites ‘snow’ was amazing and piste skiing was superb. Well over 95% of the runs were open and we encountered no ice at all - it was like skiing on packed powder. I think we were lucky to have consistently cold remperatures for the few days we were there. The mind blowing scenery, super efficient lift system (I’d prefer less gondolas though) and wonderful cheap on mountain food were all fantastic but the skiing was a bit ‘samey’. We skied the Marmolada glacier and both the Gran Rosa and Sasslong World Cup runs.
When we were based in Aosta the highlight was skiing from Italy into France. (I’ve noted you’ve not skied La Thuile and La Rosiere. :stir: ). La Rosiere is south facing so we spent a few hours skiing soft bump runs because of the steady diet of groomers we had at Pila and Cervinia. Cervinia was the only place we experienced lift lines of any significance and I suspect that was due to lift closures up high. We didn’t get to go over the top to Zermatt so only spied the Matterhorn from the ‘wrong’ side. Even so the scenery of Mont Blanc and the other huge mountains in that region made up for it.
This year will be a few days in Thredbo before we ski Japan early next winter. Even if we experience the famous Japanese powder I think my wife’s love of groomers will make Canada and the US our ‘go to’ areas. Others on here might think Japan will have something to offer all of us?
In February we’ll fly into SLC for our first trip without the kids. We intend to do our first lessons in the hope that Kylie will gain enough confidence to really embrace skiing off the groomers. We will be taking friends. Two couples - one of which are early intermediates who have only skied Oz and the other who are both never evers. As a result we may be a little limited as to what we can do. I hope the likes of Alta, Snowbird, Big Sky and Aspen blow them away. We hope to be at Snowbird by ourselves at the end of the trip so you can push both of us out of our comfort zone.
I’ll try to post some Euro pics.