Vail Resorts shareholders are upset. Has Vail ruined skiing?

[spinbackwards]

I was telling Tony about this, he didn't seem to know.
Vail Resorts shareholders are upset

I thought this video is accurate.
Has Vail ruined skiing?

Last week a senior was run over by another skier at Vail. The senior suffered a broken femur. Apparently had not a young skier stopped to help them (it was a hit and run) they might have bled to death. BTW. Vail keeps the collision data quiet. It's way worse then people are aware of. Groomers at Vail are the most dangerous runs on the mountain.

Fridays at Vail are untenable. Weekends are unbearable. I simply will not go on a Friday or the weekend, no matter how good it is. The militant bro vibe there is prevalent. Starting to see lines at the Beav now.

There's no doubt about it, Vail's terrain is great. They'll spread some of my ashes in the back.

But there's also a strong case to be made that Vail Resorts is all that's wrong with skiing.

It's my hope that more ski patrollers strike next year. Along with food service, ski instructors and lifties.

What say you?

 

[jamesdeluxe]

@Harvey's forum has a four-year-old thread with 2,000+ posts. A fair amount of it is about how Vail has continued the time-honored tradition of gutting east-coast properties and sending the money west, but lots of gripes about the I-70 mothership too.

F Vail

https://snowbrains.com/stevens-pass-patrollers-going-on-strike/ I say go get em. Pro patrollers that deal with heavy wrecks, heavy customer drama and avalanche mitigation work deserve to be compensated for their skills. Fu¢k Vail.

nyskiblog.com

 

[MarzNC]

Question for those who ski Tahoe. Is there a noticeable difference in lift lines Fri, Sat, Sun between Ikon and Epic resorts? I haven't skied Tahoe mid-season since 2010.

I have some sense of the differences between the Epic and Ikon resorts in terms of lift lines or crowded groomers in Colorado based on recent personal experience. Although that doesn't include any holidays periods or Saturdays.

There are people who don't understand that the operations model between Vail Resorts and Alterra are different. Or that Ikon isn't all Alterra resorts. So when there is an anti-Vail/Epic video that makes the rounds, the assumption becomes that Alterra resorts have the same issues.

A big difference is that Ikon limits the number of days at Partners and even a few Alterra resorts, while Epic has far more unrestricted options for destination resorts.

 

[EMSC]

Vail Chopping HR to the bone

 

[EMSC]

Annnnndddd..... Rob Katz is back as CEO with Kirsten Lynch kicked to the curb after all the messes the past year plus under her watch.

Colo Sun article

 

[Tony Crocker]

Interesting link posted on Harvey's forum:

Utah’s richest man wants Vail Resorts to sell him the nation’s largest ski area

Matthew Prince says he will invest $500 million in Park City Mountain Resort if Vail Resorts sells him ts flagship Utah ski area

coloradosun.com

 

[ChrisC]

Interesting link posted on Harvey's forum:

Utah’s richest man wants Vail Resorts to sell him the nation’s largest ski area

Matthew Prince says he will invest $500 million in Park City Mountain Resort if Vail Resorts sells him ts flagship Utah ski area

coloradosun.com

Again, his company Cloudflare crashed all the airlines (and others) last November 2025. Their DevOps loaded an incorrect file - not a DDoS attack.

This feud has been going on for a while. Point blank, Vail cannot sell Park City. It really does not own that many properties, nor does it have relationships. And really, do you want an eccentric billionaire to own Park City (see: Telluride)? At least Vail is accountable.


The BEST for news: Lift Blog. Peter Landsman Period.

Most other sites copy him; one can see the time difference when Unofficial, Snowbrains, PeakRankings, Storm Journal, and others publish his breaking news as their own stories later in the day. His searches, prompts, and subscriptions are simply the best developed for tracking Ski Resort Press Releases, SEC Docs, Forest Service/Regulatory Info/NEPA, Lift Manufacturers, governments, etc

Important news gets separate updates. Fridays are a weekly roundup.

News Roundup: Doolans​

June 5, 2026 Peter Landsman

• A damaged tower at Tamarack is expected to take three to five weeks to replace following last week’s “unusual cable entanglement event.”
• Brattleboro Ski Hill in Vermont fundraises for a new Skytrac control system.
• Mont Sutton to auction unique Mueller chairs.
• Roosevelt Island asks the public what to do with original tram cabins.
• Stoneham and Leitner-Poma to complete a CA$1 million renovation of L’Aurore Boréale.
• Mountain Village, Colorado releases a 300 page report detailing local officials’ failed attempt to purchase Telluride Ski Resort.
• Vail Resorts vows not to sell as Matthew Prince continues making his case to acquire Park City.
• Casper, Wyoming expects to order a new chairlift for Hogadon Ski Area this fall.
• Colorado skier visits plunge 24 percent.
• New Hampshire visits rise 5 percent.
• In New Zealand, The Remarkables proposes the nation’s longest gondola.
• A gondola collides with a crane in Austria.
• Enjoy this progress report on the Gelande expansion at Purgatory.

 

[Tony Crocker]

The BEST for news:

That's what former admin tried to do here on FTO. The News drove most of his traffic, but it took him 3-5 hours per day to do it, and he finally burned out.