Weather Thoughts

[powderfreak]

Long column tonight with weekly summarized forecasts for both the east and the west at the end of the column.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/index. ... e&sid=1260

-Scott

 

[Harvey]

Woo hoo.

and

Thank you Scott for the work.

 

[powderfreak]

No problem, man. Keep your fingers crossed!

 

[steve@jpr]

Thanks Scott. Could be just me (and given that I'm a Marketing guy, I should have my mouth shut), but I just don't see this upcoming weekend blip to be mostly snow here--just the opposite in fact. I'd be glad for you to tell me I'm wrong so, please, go ahead.

Also looks like a good shot of snow here from this om through Weds pm. 8-10" maybe?

Long column tonight with weekly summarized forecasts for both the east and the west at the end of the column.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/index. ... e&sid=1260

-Scott

 

[ccskier]

What about the 10-15 advertised on the website? Is that just for marketing?

Thanks Scott. Could be just me (and given that I'm a Marketing guy, I should have my mouth shut), but I just don't see this upcoming weekend blip to be mostly snow here--just the opposite in fact. I'd be glad for you to tell me I'm wrong so, please, go ahead.

Also looks like a good shot of snow here from this om through Weds pm. 8-10" maybe?

Long column tonight with weekly summarized forecasts for both the east and the west at the end of the column.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/index. ... e&sid=1260

-Scott

 

[steve@jpr]

10 is definitely the more conservative estimate. And th 10-15 is through Friday I believe.

What about the 10-15 advertised on the website? Is that just for marketing?

Thanks Scott. Could be just me (and given that I'm a Marketing guy, I should have my mouth shut), but I just don't see this upcoming weekend blip to be mostly snow here--just the opposite in fact. I'd be glad for you to tell me I'm wrong so, please, go ahead.

Also looks like a good shot of snow here from this om through Weds pm. 8-10" maybe?

Long column tonight with weekly summarized forecasts for both the east and the west at the end of the column.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/index. ... e&sid=1260

-Scott

 

[ccskier]

Looks like you changed the website. At 3:30 it said wednesday, now it says Friday. Maybe the update time should say 4pm not 1:30.

10 is definitely the more conservative estimate. And th 10-15 is through Friday I believe.

What about the 10-15 advertised on the website? Is that just for marketing?

Thanks Scott. Could be just me (and given that I'm a Marketing guy, I should have my mouth shut), but I just don't see this upcoming weekend blip to be mostly snow here--just the opposite in fact. I'd be glad for you to tell me I'm wrong so, please, go ahead.

Also looks like a good shot of snow here from this om through Weds pm. 8-10" maybe?

Long column tonight with weekly summarized forecasts for both the east and the west at the end of the column.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/index. ... e&sid=1260

-Scott

 

[JimG.]

Looks like you changed the website. At 3:30 it said wednesday, now it says Friday. Maybe the update time should say 4pm not 1:30.

Ouch! Rough crowd.

This damned weather is making everyone cranky.

 

[steve@jpr]

Dunno. Have to check with the web crew.

Looks like you changed the website. At 3:30 it said wednesday, now it says Friday. Maybe the update time should say 4pm not 1:30.

10 is definitely the more conservative estimate. And th 10-15 is through Friday I believe.

What about the 10-15 advertised on the website? Is that just for marketing?

Thanks Scott. Could be just me (and given that I'm a Marketing guy, I should have my mouth shut), but I just don't see this upcoming weekend blip to be mostly snow here--just the opposite in fact. I'd be glad for you to tell me I'm wrong so, please, go ahead.

Also looks like a good shot of snow here from this om through Weds pm. 8-10" maybe?

Long column tonight with weekly summarized forecasts for both the east and the west at the end of the column.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/index. ... e&sid=1260

-Scott

 

[steve@jpr]

Yup. Looks like they updated the date range and not the time. Guilty as charged. Said they'd update the time stamp just as quickly as they could.

Dunno. Have to check with the web crew.

Looks like you changed the website. At 3:30 it said wednesday, now it says Friday. Maybe the update time should say 4pm not 1:30.

10 is definitely the more conservative estimate. And th 10-15 is through Friday I believe.

What about the 10-15 advertised on the website? Is that just for marketing?

Thanks Scott. Could be just me (and given that I'm a Marketing guy, I should have my mouth shut), but I just don't see this upcoming weekend blip to be mostly snow here--just the opposite in fact. I'd be glad for you to tell me I'm wrong so, please, go ahead.

Also looks like a good shot of snow here from this om through Weds pm. 8-10" maybe?

Long column tonight with weekly summarized forecasts for both the east and the west at the end of the column.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/index. ... e&sid=1260

-Scott

 

[JimG.]

Yup. Looks like they updated the date range and not the time. Guilty as charged. Said they'd update the time stamp just as quickly as they could.

Could you please get them working on the snow/cold issue once they're done fixing the time?

 

[steve@jpr]

straight away...

Yup. Looks like they updated the date range and not the time. Guilty as charged. Said they'd update the time stamp just as quickly as they could.

Could you please get them working on the snow/cold issue once they're done fixing the time?

 

[Harvey]

Let's cut Stevie a break. He didn't hurt anybody. And he plays nice.

At least some one is posting again. I think everyone was under the bed until the liquid stopped.

What I want to know is - who is this guy "Herb - the skiing weatheman?" He's got a pretty positive outlook. I think Scott is a little more cautious about pullin our chains.

M

 

[ccskier]

Just trying to find some decent reporting on mountain conditions, other than RiverCoil's, (who is has the best reports I have seen yet). I have been a seasons pass holder at Jay for he past 4 years, ski about 25-35 days per year there. I drive 5 hours every Friday and 5 hours back every Sunday to go up there and ski as well do many others. When I can't get a hold of friends in the area, none of which are even bothering going to the mountain, I would like to rely on the the mountain website and forums. I spend thousands of dollars every year on skiing, that is because I enjoy the sport. Yes, people are down because of the weather, but "proposed" information does not help when you have to travel as far as many do. I am not someone sitting around at work looking to take frustrations out on people in any way. I lived in the area for 5 years and know how the weather is and what conditions should be like. This year you can't just say, at least you are out skiing or lets just drive up and see what it is like this weekend. That is not the case, yes it may be fun, but is it worth the time to be stuck on the trails, crammed with people, half of which should not leave the village chair or the metro chair. I have seen more pile ups of people this year than ever before.

I also work in Sales/marketing. If I was to advise my clients on my website one thing and then retract it, I would be broke. I do understand that the weather is unpredictable, but a little bit more reality is all people want.

That is my 10 cents.

Let's cut Stevie a break. He didn't hurt anybody. And he plays nice.

At least some one is posting again. I think everyone was under the bed until the liquid stopped.

What I want to know is - who is this guy "Herb - the skiing weatheman?" He's got a pretty positive outlook. I think Scott is a little more cautious about pullin our chains.

M

 

[steve@jpr]

CC--thanks for the dime.
I came out to First Tracks to post that, in fact, the reports that Scott had put together a few days ago weren't looking as promising for Jay Peak as earlier models may have indicated. Not sure how there's an inference anywhere in that equation that suggests overselling. Far from it. I was trying to let people know that our own forecasters had downgraded us. There's no upside to me saying one thing here and another on my own site; the crossover is too wide. I just hadn't gotten to updating our report from 1:30. As soon as I heard about it here, I asked our guys to update it.

I think we've gone out of our way to report in realities this year. At least that's how it looks from here.

steve

Just trying to find some decent reporting on mountain conditions, other than RiverCoil's, (who is has the best reports I have seen yet). I have been a seasons pass holder at Jay for he past 4 years, ski about 25-35 days per year there. I drive 5 hours every Friday and 5 hours back every Sunday to go up there and ski as well do many others. When I can't get a hold of friends in the area, none of which are even bothering going to the mountain, I would like to rely on the the mountain website and forums. I spend thousands of dollars every year on skiing, that is because I enjoy the sport. Yes, people are down because of the weather, but "proposed" information does not help when you have to travel as far as many do. I am not someone sitting around at work looking to take frustrations out on people in any way. I lived in the area for 5 years and know how the weather is and what conditions should be like. This year you can't just say, at least you are out skiing or lets just drive up and see what it is like this weekend. That is not the case, yes it may be fun, but is it worth the time to be stuck on the trails, crammed with people, half of which should not leave the village chair or the metro chair. I have seen more pile ups of people this year than ever before.

I also work in Sales/marketing. If I was to advise my clients on my website one thing and then retract it, I would be broke. I do understand that the weather is unpredictable, but a little bit more reality is all people want.

That is my 10 cents.

Let's cut Stevie a break. He didn't hurt anybody. And he plays nice.

At least some one is posting again. I think everyone was under the bed until the liquid stopped.

What I want to know is - who is this guy "Herb - the skiing weatheman?" He's got a pretty positive outlook. I think Scott is a little more cautious about pullin our chains.

M

 

[riverc0il]

i appreciate the nod on the reports, ccskier.

i just wanted to pipe in and back steve@jpr up... official reports these last few weeks have been honest and straight forward. i called JP out a few times earlier this season when things were a little more optimistic, but reports lately have been on point... even having a little fun at our expense here on the "industry chat forums" or whatever term they used recently in the reports when they said not to expect the snow that fell in the past 7 days to still be on the trails. steve coming on these forums and suggesting that scott's forecast was slightly optimistic was a gracious move, imo. we certainly are not rewarding steve's honesty and blunt assessment by hammering jay's recent reports that have been rather accurate (while still selling the product and pitching the mountain, i won't suggest that official reports should not do those things).

i will be the first to pipe in and call out a mountain for a suspect forecast. i will also be first in line to say good job on telling it like it is. forums like this can be great for keeping ski areas honest, but bashing for past faults instead of focusing on current reporting is not contributing anything positive. i keep track of the ski reports from jay almost daily even though i only ski there twice a week and haven't seen any issues lately, and pointed out in my recent trip reports when official reporting was spot on. i am getting a little concerned that sometimes we can cross the line from calling out a resort for suspect reporting to general non-specific bashing.

Could you please get them working on the snow/cold issue once they're done fixing the time?

post of the day

 

[Harvey]

CC,

I get where you're coming from - we're in the same situation. Also driving 5 hours (to Gore) to ski 15-30 days per year. It's why I ended up here - I wanted to know if it was worth the trip. (Scott is the best - he'll take a unbiased educated guess at a question like - how much will Gore get out of this?)

So - sorry if my post seemed flip.

Hope Jay has a great second half.

Mark

 

[steve@jpr]

2"/3" up top during the day/early eve yesterday. 1-2" on the ground since 5:30 this morning . Flurries and intermittent heavier squalls right now (9:30 on the nose). Still looks like some heavier Lake Effect stuff for later tonight and esp during the morning tomorrow. That's what's happening here.

 

[JimG.]

2"/3" up top during the day/early eve yesterday. 1-2" on the ground since 5:30 this morning . Flurries and intermittent heavier squalls right now (9:30 on the nose). Still looks like some heavier Lake Effect stuff for later tonight and esp during the morning tomorrow. That's what's happening here.

Well, it's nice to see your guys got to fixing the weather after they got the time straightened out.

I'd like to get up that way this season...Since I'm about 7 hours away I'm not even considering it until there is alot more snow on the ground. I understand how ccskier feels...that's a big time commitment for a season pass holder.

I think there's a PSIA trees/steeps clinic up there in late Feb/early March. I need the re-up credit so that's what I'm aiming for.