Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

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Re: Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

Postby Tony Crocker » Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:41 am

EMSC wrote:If its a wet spring (eg snow for them on a regular basis), they will have no trouble making it to their closing date. Wet springs are probably about a 3 out of 4 chance for the continental divide ski areas. If it suddenly dries out and warms up then it's much more possible that they will have limited terrain by their closing date due to the low snow year.

+1 A-Basin and Loveland spring skiing are indeed dependent on that Continental Divide spring snowfall. The last premature collapses of spring snowpack were in 2002 and 2012. Snowfall through the end of March at Loveland was 197 inches in 2002 and 175 in 2012. It's fairly clear that this year is not as bad as those, but Loveland still being only 76% open on March 15 is not a good sign if spring turns dry.

A-Basin was worse than Loveland in 2002 and 2012 (139 and 132 inches through end of March) and in both cases closed before the beginning of May. However, this year A-Basin was 87% open Feb. 15 and has been 96% open in March.

In the Pacific States snowfall declines significantly in April and anything as much as a foot in May is a bonus. So length of season at Mammoth is almost entirely based upon stockpiled snowpack and can usually be predicted in March. The same would be true at Bachelor until Powdr Corp took over and ended the season at Memorial Day despite 2/3 of the prior seasons with the Summit lift making it to July.
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Re: Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

Postby Sbooker » Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:09 pm

It's difficult to decide what if any pass to buy for us from Australia this time around.
Mountain Collective (bonus third day) almost works for us if we can buy at parity. It is still doubtful that we will have the opportunity to ski the northern hemisphere next winter. I'm thinking most likely will be Japan (Niseko) but that isn't ideal if we can't travel until next March or April. Canada would be next most likely I would think and they have some hills that suit March and April skiing in Revelstoke, Panorama and Banff.
The Loveland pass sounds great and is something I would certainly entertain if travel possibilities become clear. When does the discounted pass rate usually finish?
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Re: Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:09 pm

Loveland was available until Dec. 1, 2020 for $439 for 2020-21. All the passes extended their deadlines in 2020 for 2020-21 due to COVID uncertainty.

I think Ikon was mid-June last year, but they are saying May 5 this year for lowest price.
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Re: Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

Postby MariaCornish » Wed Mar 24, 2021 7:10 am

Oh, what a pity that I missed this moment, like many others.
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Re: Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

Postby jamesdeluxe » Fri Apr 23, 2021 8:15 am

This just in, a download link to Vail Resorts' investor-conference PPT deck (72 slides). Enjoy!
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Re: Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:55 am

I'm sure James is not pleased that VR aspires to get into the European market. :twisted:
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Re: Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

Postby Tony Crocker » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:13 pm

Indy Pass is adding Powder Mountain and Mt. Ashland for 2021-22. Schweitzer's addition to Ikon was already noted in followup to one of the Schweitzer TRs.
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Re: Mountain Collective/Ikon/Epic 2021-22

Postby jamesdeluxe » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:21 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:I'm sure James is not pleased that VR aspires to get into the European market.

They'll be getting involved at resorts that I'd probably not be visiting in the short term + Americans will never be more than a small percentage in the Euro ski scene = not a major concern for me.
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