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First Indoor Skiing in North America - Big Snow

Postby EMSC » Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:34 am

James gets a new gig with Colorado required part of the time at the exact same time that NJ gets the first indoor, year round skiing in North America. Coincidence?

https://liftblog.com/2019/12/05/indoor-skiing-comes-to-america-with-big-snow/
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Postby jamesdeluxe » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:30 pm

No coincidence whatsoever. That indoor skiing structure has been there for what seems like forever and only recently opened -- just checked/it was built in 2008 when the place was called Xanadu.

There's a big thread in NY Ski Forum about it, if interested.
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Postby berkshireskier » Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:58 pm

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ope-shreds

Interesting story on the indoor skiing in the new New Jersey mall. If global warming accelerates over time, will this be the future of skiing for many people?
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Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:41 pm

Nobody is going to invest money in something expected to be an alternative 30 years from now. The developers hope there is current demand for indoor skiing.

Where is indoor skiing most successful now? I think mainly in Euro ski markets that are not easy driving distance to the Alps, such as England, northern Germany, the Low Countries. My guess is that usage comes from beginners and some people practicing for their one week vacation in the Alps.

EMSC and James' references above comment that indoor is not so different from some places in the Midwest or Southeast and often more pleasant considering crowds, weather and surface conditions. There are times it will be more pleasant than Mountain Creek, the Poconos or the Catskills too. As with other "molehills," I think terrain parks may be a big attraction. I'm guessing it's still too short for much in the way of racing.

If I were picking a location for indoor skiing in the US, I'd choose a big metro area far from real skiing like Dallas or Atlanta. OTOH NYC is by far the biggest metro area, so only a tiny slice of its residents would be enough to make Big Snow successful.
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Postby berkshireskier » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:18 pm

Yea, I'm guessing this is more in the "novelty" genre than any serious attempt to make money from indoor skiing (and a way to get more people into the mall). I'd bet there will be quite a few "never-evers"- teenagers, etc. who will show up on a Friday night to see what it is like to TRY to ski or snowboard. I couldn't tell from the photos in the story what sort of protective cushioning they have along the sides of the"slope" or how long a run-out they have at the bottom. But I could see a LOT of collisions and accidents happening there. A true WROD!
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Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Tickets are good for two hours and times start/end every 15 minutes with a ticket limit. If that ticket limit is reasonable I predict lower skier density than on the busiest trails at Mt. High West or Hunter on a weekend.
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Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Dec 30, 2019 2:32 pm

It has belatedly occurred to me that with the advent of Big SNOW, Patrick's ski streak now has a fail safe backup plan for the tough months.
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Re: First Indoor Skiing in North America - Big Snow

Postby EMSC » Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:58 pm

Wait till Patrick's wife finds out. No more south America for him, lol.

He might even get a local cabbie in NJ to steal all his stuff to make it feel even more like his trips to south america (only half joking).
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