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Re: A New Low in Customer Service by United Airlines/Air Can

Postby socal » Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:41 am

FYI it's not easy in the US to turn around a PCR test in less than 3-5 days. We found a clinic in Santa Monica and reserved Dec. 8, the exact day we need to take the test.


Tony for what it's worth I've done testing at the Los Angeles free test sites, both times got results in 24 hours or less, including the Monday before Thanksgiving.
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Re: A New Low in Customer Service by United Airlines/Air Can

Postby EMSC » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:16 am

For reference, 14 days of quarantine is no magic number.

The 14 days was set badly way back in March with poor quality data on a small sample size and ignoring that there are tiny numbers of cases that don't test positive till well after 14 days too. Average onset of a positive test is 5 days after exposure and relatively few positives after ~8 days. Which is why the quarantine protocol is finally being reduced to a more realistic number (10 days), but still probably 2 days longer than an optimal overall outcome of economic vs public health balancing. There is no such thing as perfect in any of this despite so much pretend bluster of "following the science".
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Re: A New Low in Customer Service by United Airlines/Air Can

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:45 pm

socal wrote:Tony for what it's worth I've done testing at the Los Angeles free test sites, both times got results in 24 hours or less, including the Monday before Thanksgiving.

I've heard that anecdotally, but it's not guaranteed. If we haven't sent results to AstroTrails before we leave Dec. 10, we will not be accepted on the tour when we get to Buenos Aires. They specifically said that an electronic result shown upon arrival will not be accepted.

Also, since cases seem to be exploding in L.A. County, there is a good chance that turnaround time may slow down again.
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Re: A New Low in Customer Service by United Airlines/Air Can

Postby socal » Wed Dec 09, 2020 10:44 pm

LA results are now over a day or two based on a few people who took them last week. Just an FYI
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Re: A New Low in Customer Service by United Airlines/Air Can

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Dec 10, 2020 12:15 am

We took the test in Santa Monica 11am Dec. 8, had results by e-mail about 8:30pm.
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Re: A New Low in Customer Service by United Airlines/Air Can

Postby Marc_C » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:59 pm

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2020 Eclipse Success Despite United Airlines/Air Canada

Postby Tony Crocker » Sat Dec 12, 2020 5:57 pm

Tony, Since you are posting does that mean you made it through EZE?

Yes, we had a a ton of paperwork which we had to e-mail to AstroTrails in England before we left Dec. 10 and we brought paper copies with us.

LAX check-in was normal like a domestic flight except that we had to do it in person, not online in advance.

In DFW there was a big line where we had to show one of the forms that we had been pre-approved for admission to Argentina. There are only 180 non-South Americans with permission, all specifically for the purpose of viewing the eclipse, until after Dec. 15. Then we had a temperature check before boarding the plane.

The Sheraton hotel where we are staying and the bus tour today (Dec. 13) had temperature checks and sanitize spritzes every time you entered the lobby or got on the bus. We got off the bus several times for garden walks and also for a steak lunch, which was outside.

Buenos Aires weather is superficially similar to Japan or East Coast USA in terrms of average temperature and quantity and incidence of rain. But the extremes are more moderate, 3-5 degrees cooler in summer and warmer in winter. Thus freezing is rare and jacaranda purple flowers were in full bloom as they are in the opposite months in SoCal. There were also some palm trees in the rose garden we visited. It was mid-80's F and humid but often there was a breeze to be more comfortable.

We all met for COVID PCR tests at 7PM Friday and received negative results this morning. We checked into the hotel about noon and were pleasantly surprised not to be on lockdown for the afternoon. So we walked around for few hours, exchanged money at the blue dollar rate (10x what it was 5 years ago when I last skied Las Lenas) and checked some shopping options for Liz. After the COVID test 4 of us we went out for dinner, a first rate Italian meal at Basa with a bottle of wine for $100 including a generous tip. The restaurant had adequately spaced tables and no surprise had few diners when we arrived 9PM but was full when we left at 11PM.

We're up very early tomorrow to fly to Bariloche. Eclipse day is Monday, then a full day of tours by bus and boat Tuesday with stargazing late that evening. We return to Buenos Aires late afternoon on the 16th and head home late on the evening of the 17th.
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Re: A New Low in Customer Service by United Airlines/Air Can

Postby tseeb » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:30 am

Thanks for the update. I was wondering if they asked you not to post.

I was looking for LiveStream and saw that it looks like Argentina was a better call than Chile where it looked foggy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEHcZE4qcDE says not much over 30 mins to go for totality.
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2020 Eclipse Success Despite United Airlines/Air Canada

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:05 pm

We just got back to Bariloche from the eclipse: very successful, best shadow bands I’ve seen. There was thin cloud for first 20 seconds so two people got pictures of the shadow bands on the clouds like the famous pictures from Polynesia in 2010. Lots of prominences, at least 4 big ones.

Streaming was probably from Chile where weather was worse. Pucon was mostly clouded out as predicted, but someone on SEML reported success from the Chilean coast. There was also a flight over the Pacific in some kind of aircraft with unusually high windows. The sun was 72 degrees high in the sky where we were at Fortin Nogueira (estancia north of Piedra del Aguila on route 237 in Argentina) and likely 65 degrees or so from the aircraft. It was extremely windy at Fortin Nogueira but we positioned behind a row of windbreak trees so it was comfortable and people could set up high end photography gear.

There are only 180 non-South Americans with permission

The AstroTrails tour company negotiated for 180 special Argentine permits. In reality only 89 were used, 38 of them by our group. I'm sure there were more visitors to Chile but I don't know how many more.

We took few pictures but should get access to excellent ones from Larry Stevens and Judy Flayderman.
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2020 Eclipse Success Despite United Airlines/Air Canada

Postby Tony Crocker » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:50 pm

Shadow bands on cloud by Andreas Moller at our location:
ShadowBandCloud2020.jpg

The thin clouds lasted the first 25 seconds of the 2 minute 5 second totality.

Good view of prominences from Tolten near the Chilean coast:
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This is shortly before third contact.
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2020 Eclipse Success Despite United Airlines/Air Canada

Postby Tony Crocker » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:55 pm

If we haven't sent results to AstroTrails before we leave Dec. 10, we will not be accepted on the tour when we get to Buenos Aires. They specifically said that an electronic result shown upon arrival will not be accepted.

Two people from Scotland did not get their PCR test results in time and were not allowed to go on the trip.
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2020 Eclipse Success Despite United Airlines/Air Canada

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Dec 24, 2020 2:10 pm

YouTube video from our Fortin Nogueira site by Nick James of AstroTrails:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAlzqdfHTT8&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
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