Tracking Skiing Stats

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Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby vanhanbr » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:50 am

How is everyone tracking their individual ski stats (mostly concerned with vert. ft.) ? I realize epic can track with a pass, but what about the other resorts? GPS Logger, phone app?

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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby Marc_C » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:01 pm

Phone app: Ski Tracks
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby vanhanbr » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:56 pm

Thanks, I downloaded ski tracks a while back but never used it. I think I will make the effort to log all my ski days next year.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby tseeb » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:59 pm

This question was also asked and subject discussed in the 1st reply to post at viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14161 SkiTracks is too hard on my iPhone battery to make it through the day, especially at areas with spotty cell coverage and if I'm listening to music, texting and taking pictures.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:59 pm

My 2 cents were in this specific post:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14161&p=82283#p82283

If you want accuracy get a watch. Suunto is the main manufacturer of altimeter watches now. Tseeb lists all the reasons not to depend upon a phone app.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby Marc_C » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:08 pm

tseeb wrote:This question was also asked and subject discussed in the 1st reply to post at viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14161" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; SkiTracks is too hard on my iPhone battery to make it through the day, especially at areas with spotty cell coverage and if I'm listening to music, texting and taking pictures.

That odd. I've never had an issue if I start the day with a full battery. And it doesn't require WiFi or cellular to track your runs, so you can always put it in airplane mode and turn off wifi to further conserve battery. I also usually have a tiny power pack in my pack that can charge the phone twice-ish.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby Tony Crocker » Sat Apr 18, 2020 6:59 pm

Airplane mode is probably a good idea if you want to prioritize the ski tracking. Ski areas sometimes have holes in cell coverage. When they do, the phone chews up a lot of battery trying to find a signal.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby tseeb » Sat May 09, 2020 3:22 pm

Airplane mode doesn't work for me while skiing as I usually want to be able to receive calls, assuming I'm not in Canada where Verizon charges me $5 for every 24 hr. period if I take my phone out of airplane mode. I've never understood how some people that I was trying to connect with on the hill had their phones in airplane mode or turned off unless they were trying to conserve battery.

While looking for something else, I ran into Staley's 81K day at Mammoth. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10197 My highest lifetime is 45K+ at Bachelor. See viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11724

I think Northstar's Backside, with ~6 min ride for 1846' vertical on an uncrowded weekday could be good for a big day although it stops a lot. If you got to the top by 9 (they open at 8:30) and skied until 4 with 10 minute laps and add on the 2200' vertical return you are almost at 80K. Even 12 minute laps would give you almost 67K. But when I look at EpicMix numbers from my one day at Northstar this season, my fastest lap was 16 minutes. If you ran at that pace all day, you get over 50,650 adding in the 2200' vertical return to base.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun May 10, 2020 2:30 pm

tseeb wrote:Airplane mode doesn't work for me while skiing as I usually want to be able to receive calls...

One more reason it's better to use a watch than a phone.

tseeb wrote: My highest lifetime is 45K+ at Bachelor. See viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11724

I'm surprised at that, given my record 50,480 at Bachelor in 2012: http://bestsnow.net/TRsFTO/20120407Bachelor.html

In my experience I consider Mt. Bachelor second only to Sun Valley for a layout most conducive to racking up vertical. I have two more days there over 40K:
http://bestsnow.net/TRsFTO/20000407Bachelor.html
http://bestsnow.net/TRsFTO/20070415Bachelor.html

Tseeb could ski 60+K at Bachelor IMHO without working hard at all.

On April 27, 2015 I skied a few runs with Bob Seto: http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards ... hp?t=11811
Bob is atop the lifetime EpicMix leaderboard: https://www.epicmix.com/Leaderboard.aspx
Bob also was the leader for 5 consecutive seasons 2015-2019. He has a few days over 100K, all at Keystone which has a 12-hour ski day with night skiing. Bob Seto record highs by resort:
Keystone: 117,253
Beaver Creek: 85,112
Park City: 75,516
Breckenridge: 70,413
Vail: 68,537
Northstar: 64,234
Whistler/Blackcomb: 62,555
Heavenly: 46,203
Kirkwood: 43,071
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby sierra_cement » Tue May 12, 2020 11:07 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:In my experience I consider Mt. Bachelor second only to Sun Valley for a layout most conducive to racking up vertical.

What makes these mountains more conducive than others? Not too many flat areas?

Tony Crocker wrote:On April 27, 2015 I skied a few runs with Bob Seto: http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boards ... hp?t=11811" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bob is atop the lifetime EpicMix leaderboard: https://www.epicmix.com/Leaderboard.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Bob also was the leader for 5 consecutive seasons 2015-2019. He has a few days over 100K, all at Keystone which has a 12-hour ski day with night skiing. Bob Seto record highs by resort:

I looked up and read about this guy. What an amazing character.
https://www.summitdaily.com/sports/bob- ... this-year/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJQHZ0d4aes
In this video, he says he works out every morning and uses skins as well.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu May 14, 2020 11:58 am

In Bob Seto's daily log there are a bunch of days, mainly in spring, where he skied Beaver Creek, Vail, Breck and Keystone in the same day. I figured there must be some point reward for that.
https://www.epicmix.com/EpicMix-Pin-det ... pinid=1605
Not so easy now that Crested Butte is added to the list.

Bob also has a couple of days where he skied the 4 Colorado mountains PLUS Heavenly and Northstar on the same day.

sierra_cement wrote:What makes these mountains more conducive than others? Not too many flat areas?

High speed lifts with lots of vertical plus continuous and easily accessible fall lines. You don't want flat but you also don't want much technical terrain requiring you to pause to map out your line. And minimize traverses, runouts and hike-to terrain. Just think the opposite of Alta. :stir:

Keystone is a flatter than average mountain but checks all of the other boxes for maximizing vertical. But Sun Valley is the champ IMHO. I know that 100K can be done there during normal daytime operating hours.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby sierra_cement » Thu May 14, 2020 4:02 pm

Tony Crocker wrote:
Bob also has a couple of days where he skied the 4 Colorado mountains PLUS Heavenly and Northstar on the same day.

How do you do that? That's one of the craziest things a skier can do. Does he write any trip reports?
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby Marc_C » Thu May 14, 2020 6:07 pm

Yeah, we need details on that one.
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby tseeb » Thu May 14, 2020 8:36 pm

Bob is a pilot, but still seems like it would be hard to do more than a run at each of the 4 CO places PLUS Heavenly and Northstar on the same day. That would require a fast plane from Eagle to Truckee and somebody to drive you between ski areas and airports (or at least be waiting with a car) at both ends.

That tops my two days last year when I skied Heavenly 15K and Mammoth 9K, then Mammoth 12K and Heavenly 7K, both on the same day, two days apart in late April.

I also may have gotten the first Tahoe Triple in 2015 skiing Kirkwood, Heavenly and Northstar on same day. See viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11710
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Re: Tracking Skiing Stats

Postby Tony Crocker » Thu May 14, 2020 10:19 pm

Yes, I think we can presume Bob Seto flies privately from Eagle to other places. In 2015 he skied all 4 Colorado areas every day from March 21-27 and April 1-12.
On March 28 he skied 40,275 at Breck, 10,831 at the other 3 Colorado areas and 926 at Park City, total 52,032.
On March 29 he skied 40,186 at Park City, then 13,392 at the 4 Colorado areas, total 53,578. So two 5 area days.

But April 6-8, 2019 set a higher bar:
April 6: 7,628 Heavenly, 574 Northstar, 11,010 Breck, 1,593 Vail, 906 Beaver Creek, 40,267 Keystone. 6 areas, 61,978
April 7: 631 Breck, 1,593 Vail, 906 Beaver Creek, 40,694 Keystone, 574 Northstar, 10,798 Heavenly, 747 Kirkwood. 7 areas, 55,943
April 8: 574 Northstar, 1,593 Vail, 906 Beaver Creek, 2,298 Keystone, 40,351 Breck. Only 5 areas, 45,722
Bob remained in California April 9-13, skiing all 3 areas 3 of those days. He skied all 4 in Colorado April 14.

James is likely to chime in here about how many places one might ski in the Alps in one day. Boundaries in the Alps are blurry in some of the interconnected complexes. I've probably skied 3 in one day in the Arlberg and possibly 4 in one day in the Dolomites.
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