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Retirement Road Trips

Postby Tony Crocker » Sun Aug 08, 2021 11:37 pm

James has used Google route mapping on some of his Euro trips and suggested that I create some after the pandemic road trips of the 2020-21 ski season.

I have had quite a few extensive road trips over the past decade+, and these types of trips were very rare before I retired.

In Sept. 1971 and June 1972 I drove cross country to college with classmates who had their own cars at home in summer but at college during the school year. Both of these were point A to point B trips with zero tourist stops, 4 days in 1971 and 59 hours in 1972. The latter trip was intended to be straight through with 3 drivers but a massive thunderstorm in Oklahoma made an overnight stop there a wise move.

From then until retirement I only drove farther than Oregon or Utah 3 times.
1) In Jan. 1990 I drove with my friend Richard and 3 of our kids to Steamboat and Vail for 10 days total.
2) In July 1995 our family rented a motorhome for two weeks and drove to Yellowstone and Grand Teton National Parks. This trip started with a July 15 ski day at Mammoth.
2) For Adam's spring break in 2001 we drove to Crested Butte, skiing Arizona Snowbowl, Wolf Creek and Monarch on the way.

While working my ski vacations were rarely more than one week at a time. Occasional longer summer vacations tended to be beyond drive distance.

So now for the retirement road trips: I'm posting screen shots here, but also linked online maps (click on date) which are zoomable and scrollable to see more detail.

March 30 - April 14, 2011 was to an Epic Ski Gathering in Summit County Colorado.
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My Porsche Cayenne was brand new then and my friend Richard went with me. We visited admin and skied Deer Valley and Snowbird with him and rfarren on the way to Colorado. After skiing Vail, Breck, A-Basinm Loveland and Aspen Highlands, we drove home via Arches, Canyonlands, Natural Bridges, Monument Valley and the Grand Canyon. Total 3,100 miles, longest day 685, longest 2 day 930. Other trips below were in the Cayenne unless mentioned otherwise.

January 11 - February 13, 2012 was to snowcat skiing at Mustang and Baldface, followed by NASJA events hosted by Red Mt., Whitewater and Schweitzer.
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I visited Andrew in Eureka and skied Mt. Bachelor and Big White before the cat skiing. I skied Silver Mt. and Montana Snowbowl on the way to meeting Liz in Jackson Hole. We skied Targhee, Snowbasin and Alta before she flew back to NYC and I drove home. Total 4,700 miles, longest day 685, longest 2 day 977.

February 14 - March 16, 2013 started with Liz spending a week at Sun Valley with the Diamond Dogs ski club.
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I drove to Sun Valley, then took Liz to 13 new ski areas in Canada and Montana, ending with my week at Iron Blosam. Total 5,500 miles, longest day 685, longest 2 day 849.


October 15 - November 1, 2014 was to the Solar Eclipse Conference in Cloudcroft, New Mexico.
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Since 2000 these events have been held in varied locations during years when there is no total solar eclipse. We decided to drive so we could check out Big Bend and Carlsbad first. On the way home we visited Liz' friends outside Albuquerque and some spots along I-40 on the way home. Total 3,500 miles, longest day 361, longest 2 day 650.

July 14 - August 3, 2018 was a cross country drive home from Alexandria, Virginia after Liz' brother Rob passed away.
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We first spent a week in Waynesville, NC, Liz' mother's last summer there before staying in Florida full time. While there we daytripped to the Chattooga River. The trip was in Rob's 1993 Toyota pickup with numerous tourist stops, particularly in Tennessee, where neither Liz nor I had been before. Total 3,700 miles, longest day 517, longest 2 day 802.

March 8-29, 2019 was an extensive tour of Southwest ski areas after Iron Blosam week.
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Total 3,300 miles, longest day 685, longest 2 day 757.

May 29 - June 9, 2020 was a cross country drive to Florida because Liz was there for an indefinite period of time caring for her mother.
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I went through Colorado and got in a last ski day at A-Basin thanks to friend and passholder Paul. I also visited my college friend Harold in Wichita and then admin in his RV at Lake of the Ozarks. This was in the 2019 Tesla, and totaled 3,260 miles, longest day 740, longest 2 day 1224.

August 28 - September 14, 2020 was our return home after Liz arranged in-home caretakers for her mother.
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The circuitous route was due to visiting friends in Chicago and Wisconsin with an extension to Lake Superior. We visited more friends in Colorado and several parks in Utah. Total 5,009 miles in the Tesla, longest day 554, separate 2 day totals of 1059 and 961.

January 26 - February 11, 2021 was the start of extensive travel to low key ski areas to minimize pandemic crowd exposure.
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Liz' mother passed away while we were at a NASJA event in Ogden. Therefore she flew to Florida from Boise while I returned home via Tahoe. Total 2,400 miles, longest day 685, no later 2-day longer than that.

February 19 - March 14, 2021 completed the pandemic ski trip.
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I skied Mt. Ashland on the way to my friends in Yakima, where Liz flew in. She had skied 10 new areas by the time we ended up at our Iron Blosam week. Total 4,300 miles, longest day 633, longest 2 day 893.

July 3-21, 2021 was a cross country drive in Liz' mother's 2004 Hyundai Santa Fe, which we are keeping as a third car, replacing my 1995 Nissan Maxima with 290K miles.
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This trip started with an 8 hour all night drive to Pensacola, because we were transporting furniture on the roof to Liz' friends in New Orleans and had a short window between rains that had been hitting central Florida in daytime for a week. We got a much needed rest in Orange Beach, Alabama over July 4, before visiting the music venues at the opposite end of the state in Muscle Shoals. We visited friends in New Orleans, Austin and Dallas and my cousin in Phoenix. Tourist stops included Vicksburg, the Johnson Space Center and Tombstone. Total 4,300 miles, longest day 640, longest 2 day 1165.

I would be surprised if we do another cross country road trip. I expect a Southwest Tesla road trip to the October 2023 annular eclipse. It would not surprise me to see another road trip to Canada, linking the cat skiing there to Iron Blosam week via interior Northwest ski areas.
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Re: Retirement Road Trips

Postby jamesdeluxe » Mon Aug 09, 2021 6:31 am

An impressive retirement indeed. Very few people can tolerate the lengths of those trips: most between 3,000 and 5,500 miles/having top-shelf cars certainly helps!
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Re: Retirement Road Trips

Postby EMSC » Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:23 pm

Having the exact location & stop detail for every last bit of road trips going back to 2011 is either impressive or disturbing; not sure which.

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Re: Retirement Road Trips

Postby jamesdeluxe » Mon Aug 09, 2021 1:50 pm

I want to hear about Tony's visit to the Lynyrd Skynyrd Memorial Site in Magnolia, MS!

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Re: Retirement Road Trips

Postby Tony Crocker » Mon Aug 09, 2021 2:56 pm

EMSC wrote:Having the exact location & stop detail for every last bit of road trips going back to 2011 is either impressive or disturbing; not sure which. :-D


Every ski day has been documented here on FTO as well as many of the other trips such as October 2014, so these maps were not difficult.

jamesdeluxe wrote:Very few people can tolerate the lengths of those trips: most between 3,000 and 5,500 miles

These were not road warrior trips like the ones in college. The 5,500 mile trip was over 31 days and the 5,009 mile trip over 18 days. I put in the exact dates so it's easy to see that driving averages per day are not that high. For several of these trips the longest drive day is the 685 miles from home to Utah. And rarely are there two consecutive drive days totaling as much as 1,000 miles. There's a reason these trips were all once I was retired and had the time to do them at a reasonable pace. Sometimes there's a long drive at the end (see Tahoe and northern Arizona examples) getting home around midnight, but in those cases I'm not getting up early the next day to do anything exciting.

I will get around to documenting last month's highlights sometime; the Lynryrd Skynyrd Memorial pics are on Liz' phone and haven't made it to my computer yet.

jamesdeluxe wrote:having top-shelf cars certainly helps!

July 2018 was an exception to that. The 1993 Toyota pickup was a basic model that has a 1970's look and feel and got about 225 miles to a tank of gas. It also had a somewhat temperamental air conditioner that occasionally needed half an hour of rest before it would run at full strength. We were lucky to have some monsoon rains in New Mexico and Arizona on that trip. I was surprised how green I-40 in those states was then.
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Re: Retirement Road Trips

Postby jimk » Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:02 pm

I've done a lot of long road trips for skiing in my life, especially in the last 15 years since as I've gotten older and had more time due to partially retiring in 2015 and fully retiring in 2019. My son became my ski and driving partner about a dozen years ago. Also, been driving almost annually from Wash DC area to SLC since he moved to Utah in 2015.

Even when I was a kid my father took us on some good road trips, across the entire country twice in the 1960s (non-skiing) and from Wash DC to VT several times in the '70s for skiing.

Pops at Blue Knob, PA, 1968
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My first big solo drive to ski was a 1976 college spring break trip from Wash DC area to CO (Winter Park, Vail, Aspen) and back on a ten day trip. Probably have made 15-20 roundtrips from East Coast to Rockies to ski since the early 1990s.

More recently, in the winter of 2021 I did two Wash DC to UT round trip drives, one solo, one with wife. (Don't ask why, but it had to do with avoiding airplanes during the pandemic.) On one solo leg (mid-Feb 2021) I drove DC-SLC in two days; i. e., two 17 hr days with 8 hr sleep stop in between, about 1050 miles each day. That drive was esp difficult because it included partial snowy road conditions on both days and I had no companions to help with driving. Not fun.

My vehicle at Snowbird, UT, 2021:
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My longest ski road trip mileage-wise was a three week trip in March 2018. Started from Wash DC area, drove to SLC, then up through Northern Rockies into Western Canada and back to Wash DC for a journey that was 7,000 miles in total. Had the Mtn Collective pass and skied at 8 different ski areas, four that were new to me. (Snowbasin, Snowbird, Alta, Jackson Hole, Revelstoke, Lake Louise, Banff-Sunshine, and Mt. Norquay, in that order, latter four were new to me.)

Son dropping into Corbets Couloir at Jackson Hole, March 2018:

Moi from top of Delirium Dive, Banff-Sunshine, March 2018
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Friendly ski patroller at Mt. Norquay
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We initially towed a U-Haul trailer full of home furnishings to our son's house in Utah on the first leg of that 7000 trip, rushing to beat an impending snowstorm in the Wasatch. My wife (retired from skiing ten years ago) accompanied me the whole way, God bless her. My son was with us for the SLC to Calgary segment. After dropping our son off at the Calgary airport for his flight back to Salt Lake, my wife and I made the return drive from Alberta to Wash DC in 3.5 days.

Recaps of that particular trip:

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Re: Retirement Road Trips

Postby Tony Crocker » Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:23 pm

I'm an amateur road warrior comparing to jimk. But I see some rationale for those drives for an eastern skier with family in a prime western ski location.

Given jimk is retired and had his own car, that 2018 ski itinerary seems a bit rushed to me. Jimk mentioned that Sun Valley, Whitefish and Kicking Horse were along the route. I would have recommended adding Fernie and Castle too.

Part of this may have been due to having a non-skiing spouse along, though Sun Valley and Whitefish have enough to keep non-skiers entertained for awhile. Once again I'm very lucky to have an enthusiastic partner-in-crime in Liz for these road trips.

Once vacation trips get up to a month or more, I see a strong rationale to driving your own snow prepared vehicle, worth a significant schlep from home to ski country. That informed the 2012 and 2013 drives from SoCal to Revelstoke, which I would consioder again.

jimk wrote: (Don't ask why, but it had to do with avoiding airplanes during the pandemic.)

That had a secondary influence on my 2020 cross country drives. But the the real reason was that Liz was caring for her mother on an open ended schedule so I knew I would be in Florida a minimum of two months. Of course the pandemic was the main reason Liz wanted to keep her mother at home in 2020.
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