Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

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Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Mr. Danger » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:23 pm

Well, I am new, and live around the Philadelphia area in PA. I never been to Vermont, and hopefully it will be good. But according to their website they only have 7 trails open. Thats less then at Blue Mt. in Allentown.

I am VERY worried and concerned about the conditions and lack of snow. This board seems to know alot about Jay Peak.

Can anyone give me some insight? Do they make ANY snow on the mountain?
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Re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby steve@jpr » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:42 pm

Mr. Danger. I'll give you my two cents. In the interest of full disclousre, I work at the Mtn as a marketing plebe, so verification of my thoughts should be in order.

Right now? Chairs are coming down from the top of Stateside covered in snow. A good thing. Forecasters are calling for (now I may get strung up by my thumbs for offering this, but nonetheless) 1-2" overnight with the outside possibility of 2-4".

While I can't speak for Blue Mtn, we do make a fair bit of snow, and snowmaking is scheduled to resume later tonight/early tomorrow morning and will focus on getting some upper-mtn stuff ready to go. Our HSD Quad chair, The Green Mtn Flyer, opens Saturday and we hope to have just about everything going ('cept maybe the Bonnie) by a few days before Christmas. This is predicated on snowmaking and the possibility of a little natural.

I'm not sure if I've answered your questions, but that's what I have.

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Mr. Danger wrote:Well, I am new, and live around the Philadelphia area in PA. I never been to Vermont, and hopefully it will be good. But according to their website they only have 7 trails open. Thats less then at Blue Mt. in Allentown.

I am VERY worried and concerned about the conditions and lack of snow. This board seems to know alot about Jay Peak.

Can anyone give me some insight? Do they make ANY snow on the mountain?
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Mr. Danger » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:45 pm

So is it worth it for me to even go for the trip? Will the be more trails open by the 20th, because I don't get there till midnight on the 19th.

I would really like to have a GOOD experience for the first time up there, and, I would like you to HONESTLY tell me the truth, is it worth it? And is there going to be more trails?
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Harvey44 » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:02 pm

My two cents...the week after next will probably be better than next week. Can you change your dates?

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Postby BigJay » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:06 pm

Mr. Danger wrote:So is it worth it for me to even go for the trip? Will the be more trails open by the 20th, because I don't get there till midnight on the 19th.

I would really like to have a GOOD experience for the first time up there, and, I would like you to HONESTLY tell me the truth, is it worth it? And is there going to be more trails?


Define GOOD?

If you mean good vertical with trails open and good groomers, the Jet will be operationnal. The mountain is white with natural stuff. Not enough to open the glades yet... I don't think they'll open before Xmas... So no "big powder" until then...

However, if your intension is to see some real snow and be able to cruise on grommer trails and some occasionnal bumps (on the Jet), then you'll enjoy yourself.

Should you avoid the trip altogether, i don't think so... but don't think you'll be having the "west experience out east" of fully operationnal Jay Peak... We'll have to wait a bit for that... Reschedule the week after if you can... Weather should resume to normal (or better) by then...

Are you making the trip with family? Die-hard skiers? Experienced skiers?

Also, you can forget about a snowpark... There should be a mini-park with a few rails... but that's it...
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Mr. Danger » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:06 pm

I wish I could change the dates, but I can't because our friends rented out a pretty good sized lodge for 50 people. I will get a link/name of the lodge.


EDIT:

I just want to ski MORE than 8 trails. All I want to really know is how many trails will there be open between the 20th-25th?


EDIT:

I want to also ski some very long blue trails. I think it was number 52 or 62, the last trail on the right. Will that one be open?
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Admin » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:03 pm

Mr. Danger:

1. There's nothing good right now in the East, period. Jay or anywhere else.

2. Nobody's got a crystal ball. It's impossible to tell anyone what trails will be open next week, especially with the volatile weather currently in New England.

If you're committed, go on the trip and enjoy whatever's available. It's darned near miraculous that there's any skiing at all in New England right now.
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Postby steve@jpr » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:34 pm

Mr. D--blend Big Jay and the Admin post and you have the perfect response. If I go out ona limb and list a number, it's a losing proposition for me. I can say that things will look better on the 20th then they do right now. By how much, is a matter of speculation.

Admin wrote:Mr. Danger:

1. There's nothing good right now in the East, period. Jay or anywhere else.

2. Nobody's got a crystal ball. It's impossible to tell anyone what trails will be open next week, especially with the volatile weather currently in New England.

If you're committed, go on the trip and enjoy whatever's available. It's darned near miraculous that there's any skiing at all in New England right now.
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Mr. Danger » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:41 pm

But I don't want to be upset. Is that long trail number 64 open? Or will it be open?

I want to ski VERY LONG TRAILS! If I'm not satisfied, then I am going to Killington. I don't care if its 3 hours away, I will go there since there are 42 trails open.
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Admin » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:48 pm

I give up. Steve, you can have your job! :wink:
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Mr. Danger » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:53 pm

I just want a simple answer, will there be more trails open by the 20th? I want a number in that answer. Thank you


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Which trails are open as of now? I can't seem to find it on the website.
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Postby Admin » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:06 pm

First I wrote:I give up.


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Mr. Danger wrote:I just want a simple answer, will there be more trails open by the 20th? I want a number in that answer.


Oh, what the hell...guess I'll be the one to say what Steve can't:

Danger, what you fail to recognize is that you're asking for a simple answer to a question for which there is no simple answer.

Skiing is a sport that we enjoy at the benevolence of Mother Nature. Snowmaking has helped over the years to soften that harsh reality, but even that can't help during warm and humid periods like New England has experienced for most of this early season.

Your question is akin to asking a farmer in March precisely what his corn crop output will be in August. He may have a good growing season, but he may also experience torrential rains, parching drought, tornadoes, or even locusts, all of which can dramatically affect his output. Operating a ski resort is no less weather-dependent than farming.

Look at the weather discussions from the experts right now, on easternwx.com or any other professional weather forum. Scott will be piping up here once he gets some other more pressing obligations out of the way. Even the models disagree. Whether next week's system comes up the coast or heads for the Great Lakes is anybody's guess, and both will influence the answer to your question for good or bad, respectively.

So, I'm afraid that no one will be able to answer your question. Frankly, anyone who does with any degree of certainty will be either lying or bluffing. If you can't accept that reality, maybe it's time to take up bowling instead.
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby Anthony » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:21 pm

Marc , this is to much , funny you would say bowling . That is just what I told the kids we will be doing. :wink: Well time for another Guinness as no chance of fresh powder tomorrow.
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Postby Admin » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:27 pm

Anthony wrote:Marc , this is to much , funny you would say bowling . That is just what I told the kids we will be doing. :wink: Well time for another Guinness as no chance of fresh powder tomorrow.


Mmmmm...Guinness...

You just reminded me that I need to make a trip to my fridge.
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re: Heading up to Jay Peak on the 19th to the 25th

Postby riverc0il » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:41 pm

danger... you are not going to get a simple yes/no answer to that question from any one that is worth their answer. in other words, if someone does give you a yes/no answer to that quesiton, you should question the merits of the person providing the answer.

that said, temps are predicted to get somewhat lower next week, very likely low enough to allow snow making to continue expanding trail count. don't get too excited though, as mentioned before, the entire east coast is up the creek right now, and the creek isn't even close to freezing over.

when you come up, bring your skis and bring low expectations and i guarantee you'll enjoy your experience. get your hopes up and i doubt very much you'll have a good time.
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