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From the Killington thread : Sugarloaf hit the jackpot with this early season snow, with 40 inches (see pictures at http://www.sugarloaf.com/daily.html), but you won't see any of the ASC resorts open early. No matter how much snow they get, they lose money this time of year.....if you're a...

Sugarloaf hit the jackpot with this early season snow, with 40 inches (see pictureshttp://www.sugarloaf.com/), but you won't see any of the ASC resorts open early. No matter how much snow they get, they lose money this time of year.....if you're a season passholder, they already got your dough...

I think you mean a trade-off that you wouldn't make. Trade-offs always exist.

What the hell makes you think that's the case ? Lot's of people, myself included, ski from opening weekend to closing weekend. Most of these people buy these passes because they have families and they cover vacation weeks. Go for it !!!! :lol: This logic is why Sugarloaf was a ghost town for...

I'm assuming you're making reference to a dialogue we had on this topic on another thread. Let me see if I can make this real simple. I'll make the following assumptions: 1) 2003/2004 Season Pass price $1,100 2) 2004/2005 Season Pass price $600 (ASC Gold Pass $599 rounded) 3) Year over year...

Many of them forgot about their core business (providing good skiing...its all about the terrain and the snow, dummy !) and over-leveraged themselves on real estate expansions and buying up other resorts. ASC did both of these at the wrong time in the economic cycle...they're kind of a classic...

Trust me that philosophy is longgggg gone ! Those visionaries didn't have public shareholders and tons of bank debt. They also didn't have "Summit Hotels", high speed quads, 98% snowmaking coverage and on-mountain condos. There's an old saying about the ski industry..."if you want to make a...

You're right ..marginal is a relative term. In my mind its a combination of conditions (snow coverage and open terrain) that don't allow the mountain to charge full price for day skiers. For most Eastern resorts that generally mid-November to right before Christmas week. I think that most...

Oh boy ..where do I start with this one ? Consider this a continuation of my response to the nasty PM you sent me. 1) You're willing to pay $200 to $300 more for a longer season, but you won't pay an additional $220 to buy a Gold Pass, so you can ski more days during "prime time" ? No matter...

Wouldn't suprise me at all, given the financial condition of ASC. Actually, this is roughly the same season length as their other mountains. Pre-ASC we had similarly long seasons at Sugarloaf, but it just doesn't pay for them to open earlier or stay open later. The beancounters must have pushed...

or maybe just ban joegm from this forum !! :lol: I love hearing from people that like manmade moguls and skiing on groomers only !! The guy just like to come in here and stir the pot.

Skidder was the trail of the day today. Sliuce was pretty good too !!!

Anyone want to speculate what a groomed bump is ?? :?

[Expletives deleted by administrator] !! All you could handle was 2 runs at Bretton Woods ? :lol: :lol:

Tony, your points are well taken. I was not trying to insult Joe's ability (everyone had to learn at some time), but its obvious that the thorough trashing he gave Sugarloaf wreaks of someone who just doesn't ski much. Clearly, an experienced Eastern skier going to a mountain that far away in...

:lol: :lol: :lol: Buddy, your the troll of the year !!!! Who the hell knows what your PM box has in it and you did acknowledge that you're just an intermediate skier, which I don't believe based you your novice-like observations...I still recommend that you sign up for some lessons !!! Since...

What's sad is that if ASC feels the need to offer "late" spring skiing, they could offer a legitimate product by keeping Sugarloaf open...I skied last weekend there and with no exaggeration, there is hardly a bare spot on the mountain....they're buried! The Saturday rain every where else was 3 "...

Hey Joegm...I gotta tell ya not many folks agree with your report on the Loaf which brings in to question your ability to evaluate a ski area or ski. I think you could improve both of these skillsets by taking some ski lessons. From your post it doesn't sound like you're a good enough skier to...