Accumulating Snow above 2K feet Thur-Sat

powderfreak

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Recent model data has changed to a decidedly more snow-friendly tune. As is
often the case in the fall and early winter, when cold fronts reach the
coast they increase the baroclinicity thanks to a mild ocean and cool land
temperatures. On Thursday morning, this temperature gradient and the
sharpening trough behind the cold front will spark a deepening low pressure
system off the coast of Southern New England...it will then track into the
Canadian Maritimes. The GFS holds the low closer to the New England
coastline and, thus provides a heavier snowfall, especially in Maine and New
Hampshire.

Low level temperatures are fairly mild and the low looks to deepen too late
too gather the necessary wind to transport surface cold air in before
precipitation shuts down. However, the 0C isotherm does sneak in down to
roughly 2,000ft on both the NAM and GFS, during the middle of the
precipitation event (say noon Thursday).

From the initial event, the heaviest snowfall will be from the SB/MRG area
northeastward with the White Mountains through western Maine picking up the
lion's share. I could envision 4-8" at elevation from Sugarloaf to Loon by
Friday morning with 2-5" across the central/northern Green Mountains above
2,000ft. Then, as the system moves northward and slams Fort Kent, ME, it
throws enough moisture southward to set off the orographic machines on
Friday. Cold air will be in place so accumulating snow showers are likely
even in some of the towns near the Green Mountain spine and in north central
VT. This looks like a 2-4" upslope event for the hills from SB northward by
Saturday morning...with 1-3" in northern NH/western ME.

Total New Snow by Saturday morning should be mainly 4-8" in the
central/northern Greens and 5-9 with isolated higher amounts across northern
NH and western ME. Remember this is mainly at some elevation and the
majority of population centers will remain below 3"...with larger valleys
(White River, CPV, etc) seeing little to no snow.

-Scott

ps: Still looks interesting early next week.
 
Scott, real good forecast. Great work. It should be interesting to see how fast cold air can mix in aloft and turn rain to snow on Thursday.
 
Burlington just issued a winter storm warning.


Winter Storm Watch

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT
354 PM EST WED NOV 14 2007

...POTENTIAL FOR 6 OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS
BEGINNING THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO FRIDAY...


.A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE EASTWARD FROM THE EASTERN GREAT
LAKES REGION TONIGHT...AND THEN STALL ACROSS CENTRAL AND EASTERN
NEW ENGLAND DURING THE DAY THURSDAY. MEANWHILE...AN UPPER LEVEL
DISTURBANCE MOVING NORTHEAST FROM THE TENNESSEE RIVER VALLEY WILL
RESULT IN A RAPIDLY DEVELOPING AREA OF SURFACE LOW PRESSURE ALONG
THE FRONT LATE THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY NIGHT OVER EASTERN NEW
ENGLAND. AS COLD AIR FILTERS IN AT LOW-LEVELS...DEVELOPING
PRECIPITATION WEST OF THE SURFACE LOW CENTER WILL CHANGE FROM RAIN
TO SNOW ACROSS THE NORTH COUNTRY. THE CHANGEOVER WILL OCCUR FIRST
IN THE ADIRONDACKS...AND THEN GRADUALLY MOVE TO THE GREEN
MOUNTAINS AND LOWER ELEVATIONS OF NORTHERN NEW YORK AND VERMONT
DURING THURSDAY NIGHT. THE TIMING OF THE CHANGEOVER SUGGESTS THE
POTENTIAL FOR 6 OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW OVER THE NORTHERN
ADIRONDACK REGION AS WELL AS NORTHERN VERMONT AND THE WESTERN
SLOPES OF THE GREEN MOUNTAINS...RESULTING IN HAZARDOUS TRAVEL
CONDITIONS LATE THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY. LESSER SNOW AMOUNTS ARE
EXPECTED IN THE VALLEYS.
 
salida":im5qso12 said:
Burlington just issued a winter storm warning.
Have fun!!! :D
Two kids birthdays parties this weekend + busy at work. That's unfortunate, because the potential for fun november turns is high.
 
heh... for a (very) split second i thought you were forecasting above 2000 FEET of snow for this weekend.

snorkels anyone?
 
The upcoming storm system is a tough call. I'd expect lower snowfall totals in NH and ME based on latest westward trend, with higher totals in northern NY and northern VT. The system is progged to deepen quicker than anticipated yesterday, throwing more moisture back into the cold conveyor belt. The Adirondacks will see 4-6"...the Northern Green Mountains see 7-10", w/ isolated 12" amounts along the spine.

What we'll see tomorrow is a rain changing to snow from WNW to ESE, and from the top down...happening mostly during the afternoon or evening for most areas. The snow level will stop however, at 1,500ft for some time...and so the lowest elevations, such as the Champlain Valley, might not see much snow (2" or less) with an after 12am Friday changeover time. With no strong low level cold air push until the low is well off to the northeast, we'll have to use dynamic cooling from the melting of snowflakes aloft, to bring the snow level that last thousand or so feet to the surface. If the snow level doesn't lower to the CPV by midnight, a strong area of 500mb vorticity will help mix it to the surface.

The only ways we could end up with more snow in the valleys (and mountains) are:
1) Heavy banded precipitation is occurring over the region pushing that snow level lower several hours ahead of schedule in areas seeing any meso-scale bands.
2) The low pressure system will track in a fashion that is favorable to Champlain Valley convergence on the backside, and adjacent heavy upslope snow. Late tomorrow night, NNW winds should funnel moisture into the upper CPV and western slopes while riding the cold air south...enhancing and/or prolonging backside snowfall.

Whatever happens, it should be a fun early season system with a little more widespread snowfall than the last mountain episode.

-Scott
 
Patrick":3t3mp5j7 said:
salida":3t3mp5j7 said:
Burlington just issued a winter storm warning.
Have fun!!! :D
Two kids birthdays parties this weekend + busy at work. That's unfortunate, because the potential for fun november turns is high.

Patrick, its nuking out there. You really should make the trip.
 
salida":2jh03l75 said:
Patrick":2jh03l75 said:
salida":2jh03l75 said:
Burlington just issued a winter storm warning.
Have fun!!! :D
Two kids birthdays parties this weekend + busy at work. That's unfortunate, because the potential for fun november turns is high.

Patrick, its nuking out there. You really should make the trip.

Found out this morning that the number of Bday parties for this weekend is THREE!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Thinking positive plus I also need to fill up the good will tank for Chic Choc and BC. :P

Regardless how good this weekend is, this weekend has been nailed down for a while now...however if next weekend... :roll: nevermind. #-o

HAVE FUN!!! Look forward to see some TRs.
 
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