Alta, UT 1/25/10

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Day 25: Herding feral cats.

That's what trying to get several large, disparate groups together this morning felt like. Some folks I know from Outside Media who were still in town from Outdoor Retailer were up at Alta today, as was someone from Pale Morning Media, and so was a good chunk of our group including Skidog, The Other Bob D (henceforth to be known as rdd01) and Tele Jon. Yet another couple of groups included out-of-town visitors, including kingslug and a friend with Tirolerpeter in one group, jtran with parents lipstick and skyking in another, and Colin in ours. Also bumped into Perry skiing with a couple of girls.

You get the idea. Really, most of the Salt Lake Valley was up there this morning as well. The parking situation looked like a holiday Saturday. And as Tele Jon commented, unlike a typical busy Saturday 90% of them were there for the same things that we were there for. I've never seen that level of competition before.

As a result, we quickly split up and I ended up with our core of Tele Jon and Skidog. It wasn't long before we found rdd01 and Colin, and toward the end of my day up there we picked up skrad for a couple of runs. I never got a chance to ski with any of the others.

The day started out with many of the same limitations as yesterday. Collins and Wildcat were running, but all of the High T was closed -- even Race Course and Sunspot were off limits. Sugarloaf was running, but the only way back was via the rope tow as the EBT remained closed. Supreme remained closed.

It was clear, however, that they were working on West Rustler and the north end terrain, so I was reluctant to leave the Collins area. Ditto for everyone else, for from the opening bell folks were lining up at the High T gate and at times that line wrapped back all the way to the Collins unloading terminal. It would ebb and flow throughout the morning right up until the rope drop.

So when the Outside Media folks finally got themselves together at the top of Collins on the second run and pushed off toward the Sugarloaf side, I opted to stay put. I wasn't going to let the High T out of my sight. I'd popped four vitamin I pills last night after skiing, soaked in the hot tub, and took four more this morning but it didn't matter...I'd beaten myself senseless on an empty stomach yesterday at PCMR. Awakening in the middle of the night from the ache in my legs, and my John Wayne-esque gait last night and this morning were both proof enough. Skiing the same limited terrain as was open yesterday, everything was covered in soft bumps and in my condition the Movement Goliaths were too much ski for not enough leg. I sat out a run to swap skis for the Volkl CMHs while the others took a Wildcat lap, and by the time they got back down it was nearly 11, which was the projected opening time for the T.

Sure enough, as we reached the top of Collins we saw a pair of patrollers skiing along the lineup, heading for the gates. We got in line, which was now past the Collins bullwheel and pushing back toward the patrol shack. We organized our plans and began to push forward as the line started to move.

It was right as we skied under the chair, however, that we saw the second patroller opening the lower High T gate, and we dropped down immediately and made a beeline, finding ourselves about the fifth ones through. Skidog broke trail over to the far side of Race Course and we billowed through waist-deep untracked as 150 or so who were previously in front of us were still pushing their way across the T.

We kept going. We never stopped. Skidog was again breaking trail as we bore right off Saddle, this time for the lower West Rustler traverse. We pushed off about halfway across when the vertical-to-effort ratio reached its optimum and dropped again as most folks were still above us on the T. More untracked divine goodness. We didn't stop until we reached the very bottom of Jitterbug, exchanging high fives and marveling at our good fortune. That was without a doubt my run of the year (to date).

It was time for round two. Most of the insanity of the opening was over, and skrad -- who had waited the entire morning at the head of the High T line -- joined us as we headed back out the T, this time dropping into the trees somewhere in the vincinity of Watson Line. This was a varied mix of deep powder, avalanche bomb debris and the occasional track. Not as good as the first run, IMO, but still damned fine.

The line at Collins, however, had now become insane. I've never experienced an Alta line like that one, and it was nearly noon as pushed out toward Piss Pass. My legs sent my brain a message when I caught an edge on the traverse somewhere near Sunspot Ridge, spinning me around clockwise before I rolled once, landing on my feet and continuing one traverse line lower. I haven't fallen off the High T in years.

We pushed through Piss Pass to find patrol erecting a ropeline on the far side of the pass to keep folks from dropping into the abyss over the fracture line from yesterday's avalanche that reportedly buried a patroller who was standing way down on the flats when it released. It should be noted that I've never seen a slide there before. The crown is massive, and its placement forces everyone to take a high line if they intend to head out to High Rustler, Eagle's Nest, etc. In the flat light and cloud/fog it was difficult to see just how far over into Thirds that fracture line continues, but from what I understand it travels for a considerable distance. The debris field on the flats is indicative of just how much snow came down.

My muscular agony continued through Eagle's Nest, which despite loose, fluffy tracked snow was more of a controlled fall for me than a ski run. I thus called it a day while the others, most of whom had a rest day yesterday when the canyon remained closed all morning, continued on.

No pictures -- it was too much of a feeding frenzy to even contemplate setting up for shots.

Outside Hilary, sorry that we never got to make turns with you this morning. Given the logistical complexities of the day it just wasn't destined to happen.

And so we enjoyed this morning the fruits of 82 inches of new snow -- nearly seven feet -- in the past seven days, a storm cycle that began within hours of Crocker's plane pulling up landing gear on the climb out of SLC. Is there any longer any doubt that he's a curse? :lol:
 
How long was Tony in Utah before he left? Let's see, 4 days = 7 feet of snow. That's almost two feet for every day he's there! But it won't fall 'till after he's left, of course.
:-k
 
rdd01 is now having buyer's remorse on that nick. He wanted Bobby D, but the opportunities for confusion with our own Bobby Danger are far too numerous. While he struggles with this identity crisis, he asked that I post his photo of the slide below Piss Pass. Obviously the weather cleared substantially after I left.

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I might remember that Race hill run for the rest of the season...NEVER have i gotten that even close to what i got it at yesterday...AMAZING!!!!

M
 
Powderqueen":1qp9nqhm said:
Sounds like a zoo! Seems like a trip to Solitude, Powmow or Snowbasin would be in order with those kinds of crowds.

You go right ahead and let us all know how it was. Boy, I sure wish that we had thought to do that!

Sheesh... :roll:
 
Admin":30upg3w6 said:
Powderqueen":30upg3w6 said:
Sounds like a zoo! Seems like a trip to Solitude, Powmow or Snowbasin would be in order with those kinds of crowds.

You go right ahead and let us all know how it was. Boy, I sure wish that we had thought to do that!

Sheesh... :roll:

What's with all the attitude? yeesh

I'm hopeful that I can get away from LCC for a few days when I'm there, but due to my circumstances, I may be stuck in the crowd with everyone else...at least for part of my trip.
 
I'm pretty sure there's a reason Alta and Snowbird are always more crowded than the other resorts.

Maybe not though, I'm sure you know best.
 
Don't worry about the crowds, Powderqueen. They were as bad as the snow has been good. It is statistically unlikely that the snow will be as good during your visit. Hence, the crowds should be more manageable.
 
yeah, hopefully everyone will have it out of their system by the time I get there.

I do expect it to be busy though.

More snow is in the forecast. The queen shall get some powder.

Regardless, it will be better than skiing here right now.
 
it was too much of a feeding frenzy
I'm with powderqueen all the way on this one. Read admin's report from just the day before at Park City. No liftlines, every run untracked. I know which day I would have enjoyed more. Unless this storm track was southern (I don't think so, Jackson finally got a decent dump) I have to believe Snowbasin would have been epic too.

thank you tony for the past weekend ! hope your enjoying life .
I am. In terms of terrain quality, vertical skied and the way they run the whole operation, I have to rate my past 3 days at Mustang Powder as my best overall snowcat experience. Exceeded only by that face shot day at Chatter Creek 2 years. But Mustang is in a snowier climate zone, so the odds of that happening are better at Mustang too. I also got a 25% discount at Mustang for booking just 2 week ahead.

I'll get a direct comparison with Chatter Saturday thru Tuesday. And Island Lake 2 days after Chatter. :-D
 
Tony Crocker":13m4aliv said:
I'm with powderqueen all the way on this one. Read admin's report from just the day before at Park City. No liftlines, every run untracked. I know which day I would have enjoyed more.

Well, you're about 1800 miles closer than PQ, but still 500 miles away. I had the run of the year on Monday. Were you there?

What's that? I didn't hear you. No? I didn't think so. [-(

I was there, and you weren't. Long-distance quarterbacking from the peanut gallery is getting very, very tiresome. And that's an understatement. You have no idea how effin' good it was. As much as I enjoyed my day on Sunday, it didn't compare to that one run on Monday. I could have very happily arrived at the High T opening, skied that one run and gone home completely satisfied. I would have rather been where I was than anywhere else, period. Nothing else around, including PCMR or Snowbasin (where they got a fraction of the snow LCC did out of this storm, plus it was far wetter) would've come close.
 
Nothing to be offended about; it's a matter of personal preference. I plead guilty to preferring half a day of excellent untracked to a liftline/feeding frenzy to reach one perfect run.
 
Tony Crocker":3ly44g08 said:
Nothing to be offended about; it's a matter of personal preference.

What I get offended by is the predictable "should'ves/would'ves" from hundreds or thousands of miles away by people who have no flippin' clue. Frankly, "tiresome" is wholly inadequate to describe it.
 
It's also a local vs. vacationer perspective. Admin skis powder regularly and can afford to strive for perfection. A vacationer with a limited amount of time is less likely to want to spend much of that time in liftlines or waiting at the bottom of a canyon when there's a desirable alternative still far beyond what they can get at home.
 
Tony Crocker":v91zyp8t said:
It's also a local vs. vacationer perspective. Admin skis powder regularly and can afford to strive for perfection. A vacationer with a limited amount of time is lees likely to want to spend much of that time in liftlines or waiting at the bottom of a canyon when there's a desirable alternative still far beyond what they can get at home.

I think this is a very true statement.
 
Admin":35txckio said:
Tony Crocker":35txckio said:
Nothing to be offended about; it's a matter of personal preference.

What I get offended by is the predictable "should'ves/would'ves" from hundreds or thousands of miles away by people who have no flippin' clue. Frankly, "tiresome" is wholly inadequate to describe it.

I don't think I've ever guess Admin's choice out West, but I know what he's talking about. I get the same feeling when I have people mentioned stuff about know skiing here in the East is. Talking about rain events, Spring skiing, no real different in liquid in climat between the different zones. I started skiing over 40 years ago, I've skied all the areas I'm talking about. Numbers or perceptions from out West or follow Easterner than now live West means nothing if you don't have an extensive experienced skiing it. Last night conditions were just short of amazing after all the rain Ottawa got hit with on Monday.

Not talking from a NYC perspective, but mine North of the 45th parrallel where my Eastern skiing is exclusively geographical limited to local, the province of Quebec areas and Eastern US within 100 miles from the Canadian border.
 
Skiing powder is what we all live for -- but a very close second is watching Admin's head explode over and over when Tony second-guesses him.
:lol:
 
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