Alta, UT 3/21/2010

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Day 45: Spring tan.

Today was a day of optimal weather and "sub-optimal" snow, as Marc_C put it. Despite the bright spring sunshine and blazing temperatures reaching 50 at the base most aspects never quite softened the way that I would have liked. Nonetheless it was a marvelous spring day in the Wasatch, and I've got a sunburned face to prove it.

Met up with the gang at GMD this morning: rfarren, his father Richard, Pat, Bobby Danger, Tele Jon and Skidog. After a few runs the latter three headed to Snowbird, while the rest of us stayed put. We never did bump into them when they returned to Alta later on.

The morning was filled with fast cruisers on Sugarloaf and Supreme as we waited for temperatures to warm. I was a bit underdressed, planning for later and things were a bit chilly. What to do when you're waiting for the sun to work its magic? Why, head for a latté under the sun on the Alta Java beach, of course!

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After an exceptional grilled trout for lunch at Rustler Lodge, some aspects finally did begin to soften. We tried Backside, finding the latter not quite ready even though the Yellow Trail lead-in was, so we went back for a full-length Yellow Trail...

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...and a Left Ventricle, both of which were softened nicely. Power Pole Hill yielded absolutely perfect untracked corn, while the Garage Aspens were a bit past their prime. A late effort into West Rustler, unfortunately, yielded not-quite-corn, so rfarren still has yet to ski a High Boy. Shaded northerly aspects like Harold's and Armpit still held soft chalk so that's where we wrapped up our ski day.

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rfarren and his father were perfectly pleased by the snow, but the jaded locals weren't, a point that was discussed at length over après-ski beers at the Rustler. It felt wonderful, however, just to be out there on such a beautiful day.
 
Wonderful indeed. We ended the night with a dinner at Log Haven. It's a pretty nice spot that had some tasty maple cured pancetta.
 
Bobby Danger, Tele Jon and Skidog. After a few runs the latter three headed to Snowbird
I wonder why that was? Nothing to do with the spring conditions I'm sure. :stir:

rfarren still has yet to ski a High Boy
Why not? Surely it still has winter snow and would have been a good choice in today's conditions.
 
sounds like it would have been a great day for rfarren and his father to beat the 80k vertical, or whatever the record was
 
Tony Crocker":1g6fc4bm said:
Bobby Danger, Tele Jon and Skidog. After a few runs the latter three headed to Snowbird
I wonder why that was? Nothing to do with the spring conditions I'm sure. :stir:

rfarren still has yet to ski a High Boy
Why not? Surely it still has winter snow and would have been a good choice in today's conditions.

OK Tony ill lend to this pot stirring. Bird skied MAGNIFICENTLY, Cold, smooth chalk found in Great Scott (i think we did it 3 times), more of the same out in Andersons trees. Watched a little of the comp, had lunch at Rendevous, and back out Sans bobbyd (back issues he took the BUS BACK :shock: ). Mineral softened up nicely and TeleJon and i skied a few more with the "other" bobby d and some other out of towners.

Back to Alta for TeleJon and myself, with the way things softened in Mineral we figured 3o'clockish would make for good West Rustlers. WRONG ANSWER...we got out the traverse and felt the snow...STIFF...we opted for a final run down....wait for it.....wait for it......HIGH BOY, where again we found VERY NICE Edgeable CHALK.....top to bottom non stop...what a way to end the day.

All in all great snow everywhere, dudes were going BIG in the comp despite not having tons of fresh to land in, and good times with good people.

M
 
Skidog":1dnbgk9k said:
Bird skied MAGNIFICENTLY, Cold, smooth chalk found in Great Scott (i think we did it 3 times)

And bumpy as hell, from the looks of it all the way from LCC road at the end of the day.

Skidog":1dnbgk9k said:
Back to Alta for TeleJon and myself, with the way things softened in Mineral we figured 3o'clockish would make for good West Rustlers. WRONG ANSWER

Heh heh...must've just missed each other out there. Fun, wasn't it? :roll:
 
Admin":hghw2r6i said:
Skidog":hghw2r6i said:
Bird skied MAGNIFICENTLY, Cold, smooth chalk found in Great Scott (i think we did it 3 times)

And bumpy as hell, from the looks of it all the way from LCC road at the end of the day.

Skidog":hghw2r6i said:
Back to Alta for TeleJon and myself, with the way things softened in Mineral we figured 3o'clockish would make for good West Rustlers. WRONG ANSWER

Heh heh...must've just missed each other out there. Fun, wasn't it? :roll:

Well we bagged out of the West Rustler as we could tell it wouldn't be good..

And ummmm yeah you'd be wrong if looking from the road, it was smooth to skiers left of Great Scott proper, once out past the cliff, hard left again out to basically the bottom of Jaws, again SMOOTH, little "bumpy" on the runout at the very bottom, but really not anywhere near as bumpy as seen from the road. Was literally running them top to bottom without stopping.

M
 
Skidog":1m32p0yp said:
And ummmm yeah you'd be wrong if looking from the road, it was smooth to skiers left of Great Scott proper, once out past the cliff, hard left again out to basically the bottom of Jaws,...
So in other words, you were skiing stuff nearby, but not actually skiing Great Scott, which was loaded with bumps, obvious from the road.
 
Marc_C":39yzh4qq said:
Skidog":39yzh4qq said:
And ummmm yeah you'd be wrong if looking from the road, it was smooth to skiers left of Great Scott proper, once out past the cliff, hard left again out to basically the bottom of Jaws,...
So in other words, you were skiing stuff nearby, but not actually skiing Great Scott, which was loaded with bumps, obvious from the road.

Isn't pretty much everything in LCC bumped up by now? I'd assume the goal would be to find the bumps with the most winter like snow or wait for the sun to do it's work?
 
Not everything is bumped right now, hardly. See my weekend photos for examples.

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Indulge the clueless: I see this term used a lot here. "Chalk" is firm wintery snow that'll hold an edge? Is it like windbuff, so smooth?
 
That's Yellow Trail, not the Castle, and even in Yellow Trail only the primary line had smallish bumps. And yes, your definition of chalk is the same as mine but often includes loose, sifted snow - like flour.
 
Marc_C":1nyhsblc said:
Skidog":1nyhsblc said:
And ummmm yeah you'd be wrong if looking from the road, it was smooth to skiers left of Great Scott proper, once out past the cliff, hard left again out to basically the bottom of Jaws,...
So in other words, you were skiing stuff nearby, but not actually skiing Great Scott, which was loaded with bumps, obvious from the road.

naa smartass...why dont you head up and ill show you where exactly we skied?...we skied Great Scott....traversed OUT of Great Scott (on the second or third run) to find a slightly smoother spot...but you can call it from the road if you like.. :roll:

M
 
Skidog":zyyhtwtr said:
naa smartass...why dont you head up and ill show you where exactly we skied?...we skied Great Scott....traversed OUT of Great Scott (on the second or third run) to find a slightly smoother spot...but you can call it from the road if you like..
Not debating about what you skied, just that minus the flat run-out, all of Great Scott is visible from the road, and on Sunday, all of that was very obviously bumped up. Just pointing out yet another fallacy about Snowbird that was mentioned in a different thread - that Great Scott never gets bumped.

Also, you went back to Alta as some point in the afternoon, thus you have no idea what Great Scott was like by the end of the day unless you looked at it from the road.
 
Admin":ox1sdi76 said:
That's Yellow Trail, not the Castle, and even in Yellow Trail only the primary line had smallish bumps. And yes, your definition of chalk is the same as mine but often includes loose, sifted snow - like flour.

I knew that was Yellow Trail (even without the label on the pic btw), just looked bumped up below the traverse (ski school traverse I think?). If they were just little ones like you said I stand corrected.
 
Marc_C":2huje2so said:
Also, you went back to Alta as some point in the afternoon, thus you have no idea what Great Scott was like by the end of the day unless you looked at it from the road.

Yeah at 3PM...ha...im sure all the soft, COLD snow got massively bumped in 1.5 hours. :roll:

Again..keep armchairing from the road...looks can be deceiving. \:D/

M
 
Skidog":1npqdcqv said:
Yeah at 3PM...ha...im sure all the soft, COLD snow got massively bumped in 1.5 hours. :roll:

Again..keep armchairing from the road...looks can be deceiving.

Well, if you don't make any turns and spend most of the time in the air between the tops of the bumps, I guess most anything can be reported as being smooth! :lol:
 
Marc_C":3gutslxv said:
Skidog":3gutslxv said:
Yeah at 3PM...ha...im sure all the soft, COLD snow got massively bumped in 1.5 hours. :roll:

Again..keep armchairing from the road...looks can be deceiving.

Well, if you don't make any turns and spend most of the time in the air between the tops of the bumps, I guess most anything can be reported as being smooth! :lol:

This is pretty similar to you arguing with Tony about Alta/Snowbird but you're the "Tony" in this argument. You, claiming that you've seen it from the road (mine as well have been in pictures from 1000 miles away) disagreeing with the guy who was there and skied it. Just pointing this out for you, but I'm sure I'll hear why that's not right and then change the argument... :stir:
 
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