Alta, UT 3/26/06

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Day 43:

Temps plummeted overnight from the 50s yesterday to 15 degrees at 5 am this morning. The offending cold front brought with it the promise of new snow, as well as the unwelcome elements of thunder, lightning, and high wind.

The morning report claimed 7" new with heavy snow still falling. The NWS had a heavy snow warning in effect until 11 am. The Kid and I had managed to convince friend Rich, visiting Utah from NY with his nephew John, to venture over to Alta for the day to ski with jkamien and yours truly.

Things could not be any more different from Saturday. A frigid wind howled from the northwest. The first run through Fred's Trees, admittedly, was horridly uneven, mixing pockets of heavy, wet snow with areas blown right down to the crust formed from the drop in temperatures. Marc "Sally" C, in fact, declared the conditions unworthy of his efforts and headed home after only one run.

There were only two sure ways to salvage the day: ski on east-facing aspects unaffected by the prevailing wind, and to have it keep pounding snowfall throughout the day. Much of the mountain remained closed throughout the day due to avalanche probability, including Ballroom, Devil's Castle, Cecret Saddle, and even the Backside gates. On top of that, Supreme was down due to "electrical problems," which unconfirmed rumor pegged as an overnight lightning strike. Our hopes, therefore, were pinned on a deeper-than-expected snowfall.

And we got it.

It snowed hard right up to the final bell, when the skies finally parted to bathe the mountain's lower slopes in peculiar sunlight. We watched groomers restoring the cruisers from a perch high in the Goldminer's Daughter lounge, pouring pitchers to celebrate victory and nurse muscles sore from 19,980 vertical feet of skiing. We found deep untracked and lightly tracked in Westward Ho, we experienced a complete whiteout in Gunsight, we lost each other on the High Traverse, we found beautiful untracked snow in low angle trees below North Rustler, and we found great snow in Eagle's Nest. We dined on the lunch buffet at the Rustler Lodge, we froze together on the chair, we crashed and burned (including one particularly painful body slam for yours truly), and we traded barbs and insults all day.

In sum, a great day all around.
 

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I got to ski with Rich and John earlier in the year...great guys, would love to do it again.

Nice report, Marc. Looks like another snowy week out there.
 
TiredOldSkier":2fz8pv5s said:
Marc, I am starting to see a trend here. Calling you male friends women names. . .

> Marc "Sally" C
It's his way of compensating for the dropping testosterone levels he's beginning to experience at his now advanced age. :lol:

Now regarding Sunday.....
  • Conditions basically sucked by Utah standards; dense new snow, wildly inconsistent depths, firm temperature crust beneath, seriously wind damaged surfaces, a cold howling wind, and near white-out at times
  • When I said I was bailing after the first run, what Marc didn't mention above was his comment "I don't blame you. It sucks!"
  • I hung out in GMD for a while debating what to do...BSing with a huge bunch of passholders doing the same as they nursed their third coffee concoctions
  • When I did leave a little after 10:30, the cars on either side and in front of me - all locals - had already left.
  • I had no doubt that Marc and crew would have what they will probably call a "great powder day" in "fantastic new snow" - what do they know, they're all from the Northeast or southern CA.
  • Conditions were not only bad by normal Alta standards, they were soooo much worse than the stellar day I had last Wednesday (yet to write up w/ some pics).
  • My skirt kept blowing over my head and I had a hard time seeing where I was going.
  • The new snow was inspiring but I wasn't inspired.
  • When Rich asked why I was leaving, Marc jumped in with ""Cause it sucks". Rich said "What? You guys are so f-ing spoiled! This is my best day of the year!" I think we both looked at each other like the other was a bit demented.
 
Marc, thanks for the invite to tag along and I'm sorry my wife and I missed it. We decided to head over to solitude for the tree skiing and vacancy factor. After reading some of the goings on at Alta on Sunday I'm sorta glad we hit solitude. Basically untracked or lightly tracked snow all day. Laps on the summit lift into headwall forest (waist deep in places), and dropping into the trees between black forest (thanks Marc) and here be dragons. The other side of honeycomb never opened but that was ok because visibility was terrible.

Today we hit Alta and it was busy busy busy! Almost like being back east! We started at Albion and hit sugarloaf and dropped into untracked gloryhole area. Then we were first in line when the dropped the rope to devils castle. Those were some sweet turns...no pictures b/c we were enjoying it too much (as well as keeping up with the local powderhounds). We also ventured out into the catherines area, but it was pretty tracked out by 11!! The supreme lift had a 20min wait at some point.

A lot was tracked out by 12, and we could only find small spots of lightly tracked by poking into the trees. We were done by 3.

I'll try and post a trip report when I get back home and download the pics from the cam.

We're still undecided for tomorrow, thinking snowbird maybe...
 
Admin":3uccr1ua said:

This is scary, I also skied my Day 42 and 43 THIS weekend. :shock: However it was a 8) Spring Skiing Weekend outhere.

Great report once again.
 
Although conditions improved during the day, GrizzlyFD's report confirmed my longstanding opinion that Alta is not the area of choice under the reported conditions. Much of Alta's ungroomed steeps face east and west, and the weather/conditions and Deer Valley Saturday made it quite obvious IMHO what Alta would be like when the weather turned cold.

Enough new snow would be needed to avoid bottoming out, and 7 inches of Alta's normal new snow is definitely not enough. You were lucky that the the new snow was relatively heavy, and that it continued to accumulate during the day. But you would have been better off next door at Snowbird, or with GrizzlyFD at Solitude. Maximizing north exposure is usually the key in March and later months.
 
Tony Crocker":2beaf980 said:
Although conditions improved during the day, GrizzlyFD's report confirmed my longstanding opinion that Alta is not the area of choice under the reported conditions. Much of Alta's ungroomed steeps face east and west, and the weather/conditions and Deer Valley Saturday made it quite obvious IMHO what Alta would be like when the weather turned cold.

Enough new snow would be needed to avoid bottoming out, and 7 inches of Alta's normal new snow is definitely not enough. You were lucky that the the new snow was relatively heavy, and that it continued to accumulate during the day. But you would have been better off next door at Snowbird, or with GrizzlyFD at Solitude. Maximizing north exposure is usually the key in March and later months.

Tony, with all due respect, you weren't there that day. Maximizing easterly exposure was the key. It was all about prevailing aspect, for Saturday (the previous day) was warm enough to even soften northerly exposures. Yeah, they would've been an ice-fest without the new snow, too.
 
Even Upper Silver Fox, Great Scott, Little Cloud Bowl? I have skied them numerous times in packed powder and wind buff at 50+ degrees, sometimes in a T-shirt. The comment was prompted also by GrizzlyFD's comments about Solitude's Summit lift, which also has sheltered north facing steeps.
 
Tony Crocker":328usdku said:
Even Upper Silver Fox, Great Scott, Little Cloud Bowl? I have skied them numerous times in packed powder and wind buff at 50+ degrees, sometimes in a T-shirt. The comment was prompted also by GrizzlyFD's comments about Solitude's Summit lift, which also has sheltered north facing steeps.

I wasn't at The Bird that day, so I can't speak directly, but identical aspects at Alta at similar elevations -- upper High Boy/Eagle's Nest, or Fred's Trees/Liftline Trees, for example -- were very inconsistent in the a.m. By heading to Wildcat Ridge, we were able to ski consistent snow without the wind affection on east-northeasterly aspects before wrapping around to north-facing terrain around Westward Ho. That Wildcat Ridge terrain would've been comparable to the Mid-Cirque at Snowbird, which would've been positively miserable in the flat light and poor visibility.

Corner Chute is about the only true north-facing terrain off Solitude's summit lift. Headwall Forest faces northeast, Evergreen faces northwest, Honeycomb Canyon faces northeast, Black Forest faces southwest, and Parachute and Milk Run dropping down to Summit faces due east.

I've attached some topos below to illustrate my points. The first is of Alta -- steep treed areas facing northwest through northeast are denoed by red flags. The same for open areas is marked by yellow diamonds. The second topo is of Solitude.
 

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Admin":hfjhykyi said:
Tony Crocker":hfjhykyi said:
Even Upper Silver Fox, Great Scott, Little Cloud Bowl? I have skied them numerous times in packed powder and wind buff at 50+ degrees, sometimes in a T-shirt. The comment was prompted also by GrizzlyFD's comments about Solitude's Summit lift, which also has sheltered north facing steeps.

I wasn't at The Bird that day, so I can't speak directly, but identical aspects at Alta at similar elevations -- upper High Boy/Eagle's Nest, or Fred's Trees/Liftline Trees, for example -- were very inconsistent in the a.m. By heading to Wildcat Ridge, we were able to ski consistent snow without the wind affection on east-northeasterly aspects before wrapping around to north-facing terrain around Westward Ho. That Wildcat Ridge terrain would've been comparable to the Mid-Cirque at Snowbird, which would've been positively miserable in the flat light and poor visibility.

Much of this is academic since on the day in question, the only runs off of the Tram were Chips, Regulator Johnson, and the mid-Cirque traverse. All of Little Cloud bowl, Mineral Basin, and the Upper Cirque were closed.
 
Marc_C":1piymmgo said:
Much of this is academic since on the day in question, the only runs off of the Tram were Chips, Regulator Johnson, and the mid-Cirque traverse. All of Little Cloud bowl, Mineral Basin, and the Upper Cirque were closed.

And on that note, Chip's would've been a groomer, and Regulator Johnson would've been positively blasted by the aforementioned wind. That has an aspect similar to that of West Rustler, which as my original post shows was quite disappointing due to wind effects.
 
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