An indecent proposal from Canyons

[Evren]

I got an email from Canyons offering a full season pass for $899 between now and Christmas. And it has me thinking. On the one hand, I will end up having passes to the resorts with the least amount of snowfall: Sundance, PCMR (10-pass), Canyons, Snowbasin. On the other, Canyons is 20 minutes away; the road to it never gets ruined by CA plates, clogged up, closed for avi-control, god knows what. LCC is nice in principle, not when you actually need to get to it or away from it. It could make the difference when I have a few hours in the middle of the day.

And I appreciate the gesture. Canyons is making an effort, unlike Alta which is playing hard-to-get with its $1199. THis could go either way.

 

[socal]

I got an email from Canyons offering a full season pass for $899 between now and Christmas. And it has me thinking. On the one hand, I will end up having passes to the resorts with the least amount of snowfall: Sundance, PCMR (10-pass), Canyons, Snowbasin. On the other, Canyons is 20 minutes away; the road to it never gets ruined by CA plates, clogged up, closed for avi-control, god knows what. LCC is nice in principle, not when you actually need to get to it or away from it. It could make the difference when I have a few hours in the middle of the day.

And I appreciate the gesture. Canyons is making an effort, unlike Alta which is playing hard-to-get with its $1199. THis could go either way.

$300 more for an Alta vs Canyons pass makes the canyons pass sound like the rip off to me.

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[Evren]

All else being equal, yes. But I sort of know Canyons (subjective) and Canyons is close by (20 vs 45 min. on a good day, also subjective). What is not subjective is that I can reliably get to Canyons after a night of big snowfall, unlike Alta which will be beset by interlodge or whatever the fuck, and canyon closed for avi-control, and then by eager two-wheelers spinning out on the way up. Then, I will have to sustain on a $10 chili. Canyons is not particularly different but I can feast on DV Nature Buffet for $3 more, run errands in PC, pick up a chick who skis less well than I do, all those intangibles...

 

[EMSC]

pick up a chick who skis less well than I do

And then the real reasons make an appearance...

 

[Tony Crocker]

I still don't get paying $899 for Canyons when you have a pass already at Snowbasin, a much better mountain that is also not that competitive. The price is no bargain vs. Snowbasin either.

 

[Evren]

Once again, there is no good skiing at Snowbasin currently. And no idea when that will be remedied. What if it stays that way through Jan? And the hour drive each way, vs 20 mins to Canyons: not a problem for full ski days but often I will have a few hours free and this might make the difference between skiing or not, that day.

All first world problems, admittedly.

 

[Marc_C]

...unlike Alta which will be beset by interlodge or whatever the [censored], and canyon closed for avi-control, and then by eager two-wheelers spinning out on the way up.

This is one of the most grossly inaccurate stereotypes about LCC that I've ever read. But if that's what you choose to believe, fine - one less gaper to deal with.

 

[Skidog]

Canyons gets big dumps when Lcc does? News to me. :stir:

I have no other input.

M

 

[Evren]

What, me, gaper? I've been out skiing 7 of the last 9 days while you, judging by the snark-to-ski ratio of posts... hardly ever deign to get out.
I've mentioned multiple times here how I should have sprung for an early alta pass. So no need to get defensive. I just won't pay 1200 one month into the season, is all.
Purely from a semantics angle, however, it would not be a stereotype if you've never heard it before, no?
Enjoying a little variety on needles' run today. Tomorrow can't come soon enough.
Apparently, basin had some issues with power for snowmaking earlier, as well. With the temps, rain, getting skunked on recent storms... It all came together for a very bad start. John Paul is being tested today. Hope that means they'll open quickly with snow. I'm willing to spring for base repair if they'll run the lift.

 

[Marc_C]

What, me, gaper? I've been out skiing 7 of the last 9 days while you, judging by the snark-to-ski ratio of posts... hardly ever deign to get out.

You don't know anything about my ski days or schedule, so STFU, n00b. :evil:

I've mentioned multiple times here how I should have sprung for an early alta pass. So no need to get defensive. I just won't pay 1200 one month into the season, is all.

We're talking about your misconceptions regarding LCC road closures, interlodge, and avi control. Given where you ski it's understandable that you know nothing of LCC road operations, but perpetuating a myth is a disservice to anyone else from away that is reading these threads.

Purely from a semantics angle, however, it would not be a stereotype if you've never heard it before, no?

If you're going to get into semantics, recall that a stereotype can be based either on facts or wildly erroneous suppositions.

I'm willing to spring for base repair if they'll run the lift.

All skis are rock skis, eventually. Pull out one of your old pairs for early season mineral encounters.

 

[Evren]

STFU, n00b

Oh, nice. A grown man using online gaming nomenclature. Now we know how he spends the time he isn't snarking here.

your misconceptions regarding LCC road closures, interlodge, and avi control.

Actually, much of that I got from Admin's TRs. The rest from following canyon updates, and the few times I've driven there. There is such a term as "red snake", right? It wasn't coined in BCC, it was coined in LCC? Also, waiting in your car from 8:30 until 10am, only to find no spots to park? That's gotta be a treat. I have been at the receiving end of LCC fanboys in BCC when I had a pass there. They can be quite insufferable but nothing like you.
When there's a bunch of snow, before April, there's a line to get into LCC. That's a fact. It's either the sheriff checking for 4x4, or some guy spinning out, or a downright closure. There are ways to get around the edges of that, as well. Be it a certain shortcut or showing up at 7am and waiting. But that's a pain, and I am not an early riser. To each his own.
I would actually recommend LCC to tourists because they have a distinct advantage by virtue of staying there.
I have owned up to my mistake of not having bought an Alta pass for cheaper. Should've done that. But Alta isn't the be all and end all. And fanboys like you make sure that the offerings does not improve.

 

[Admin]

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[Evren]

"Snowbasin is proud to announce the opening of Becker lift on Monday Dec 24th! Skiers & Snowboards will now be able to access more beginner and intermediate terrain through Slow Road."

A more pathetic update, I can not think of. But hamburger sliders were $1.50 each apres-ski today so we have that going for us!

 

[Skrad]

Actually, Alta is the be all and end all. Deal with the traffic and the lack of women who don't ski as as well as you do and buy the pass.

One hassle you won't have to deal with is Marc C. I don't know his skiing habits either, but I can tell you that he either isn't out very often or skiing Sunnyside all day.

 

[Admin]

 

[jamesdeluxe]

There is such a term as "red snake", right? It wasn't coined in BCC, it was coined in LCC? Also, waiting in your car from 8:30 until 10am, only to find no spots to park? That's gotta be a treat. I have been at the receiving end of LCC fanboys in BCC when I had a pass there. They can be quite insufferable but nothing like you. When there's a bunch of snow, before April, there's a line to get into LCC. That's a fact. It's either the sheriff checking for 4x4, or some guy spinning out, or a downright closure.

Depending on what's important or annoying to you, both sides of this argument have legitimate points, but if that's ^^ how you feel about LCC, why would you buy an Alta pass?

 

[Evren]

if that's ^^ how you feel about LCC, why would you buy an Alta pass?

Because it has the best chance for good snow? Well, all of Cottonwoods to an extent but:
Brighton has droopy-pants boarders
Solitude is family-oriented, feels small, with short runs that get tracked quickly after snow, despite the low total headcount.
Snowbird is too aggro. It's the only place where I've seen endemic line-cutting.
There, I just ruined my chances of ever working for SkiUtah!

Alta is big and varied with decent folk. Yes, I mind traffic/access more than others which is why I would not make that my only pass. Ideally: I'd ski Snowbasin, Deer Valley, Alta weekdays only, Sundance, Canyons after a storm and for quickies. And one day, I'll ski Powder Mtn.

Just checked doppler and heading up to the basin. Today could be a come-from-behind winner.

 

[Tony Crocker]

The other places Evren mentions have reliable snow mainly during the core of the season. If you live in Utah and want quality skiing early and late season you need to be in LCC or BCC most of the time. From what I read here that's what the situation has been for the past month, though it rates to change within the next week or two. Pretty typical by past history. LCC, BCC and Park City are all within 5-10% of average snowfall right now. Base depths and SWE's in the Cottonwoods look better than that because the early snow has been higher density than average. The Ogden mountains and Brian Head are still well below normal.

 

[Evren]

I can tell you that he either isn't out very often or skiing Sunnyside all day.

+1 say no more.

Alta is the be all and end all

Could well be. And that I am just stalling for dramatic effect. But you don't just want Admin's Alta happy days here, do you? You want to see some tension: will he get some freshies, or get skunked. I live to serve.