And the FARMER'S ALMANAC says....

Bluebird Day

Bluebird Day

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The 2010 edition of the Farmers' Almanac goes on sale today, and it predicts a cold winter for the nation's midsection, The AP reported. Numbing cold will predominate from the Rocky Mountains in the West to the Appalachians in the East. Sandi Duncan, managing editor of the 192-year-old publication, says it's going to be an "ice cold sandwich." =D>
 
BUT THEN AGAIN.. I just found this report out of NOAA:

CURRENT EL NINO CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED TO STRENGTHEN AND PERSIST INTO THE BOREAL WINTER AND 2010. THE INCREASING LIKELIHOOD OF A CONTINUING EL NINO EVENT INFLUENCES THE TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION OUTLOOKS FOR OND 2009 THROUGH MAM 2010. THE IMPACT OF EL NINO ON THE CLIMATE OVER NORTH AMERICA IS EXPECTED TO INCREASE FROM HAVING LITTLE OR NO IMPACT FOR SON 2009 TO THE GREATEST IMPACT DURING THE WINTER SEASONS. A WEAK TO MODERATE EL NINO EVENT IS EXPECTED DURING WINTER, THOUGH A STRONGER EVENT IS POSSIBLE. UNCERTAINTY IN THE FUTURE STRENGTH AND DURATION OF THIS EVENT IS CONSIDERED IN THE SEASONAL FORECASTS, ESPECIALLY AT LONGER LEAD TIMES. THE TEMPERATURE OUTLOOK FOR SON 2009 INDICATES AN ENHANCED LIKELIHOOD OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR THE NORTHEAST US :-k , THE WEST COAST, THE SOUTHWEST US, AND ALASKA. WHERE THE LIKELIHOOD OF ABOVE OR BELOW NORMAL SEASONAL MEAN TEMPERATURES ARE SIMILAR TO THE CLIMATOLOGY, EQUAL CHANCES OF BELOW, NEAR, AND ABOVE NORMAL ARE INDICATED.
 
Historically the Farmer's Almanac predictions are correct about 50% of the time. Flip a coin and you'll do just as well.
 
Marc_C":1w3w8blw said:
Historically the Farmer's Almanac predictions are correct about 50% of the time. Flip a coin and you'll do just as well.
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IMO NOAA isn't any more accurate in its seasonal predictions than the Farmers Almanac. It's hard to predict what the weather will be like for season. The computer models that exist right now are not capable of doing it with any degree of accuracy.

I wouldn't get too excited about this upcoming winter in september. We should start keeping an eye on the weather come october. If it's cold enough to get some sort of base on the mountains by mid November the East Coast should be fine. I can promise you this: There will be storms, there will be snow, and there will be some good ski days, and some not as good ski days.
 
Thanks for the comforting words.... this is my usual preseason anxiety. Tonight I put the Thule box on the Suburban and burn an old ski sock as a tribute the the Snow God.

BBD
 
rfarren":2aprnmsk said:
We should start keeping an eye on the weather come october. If it's cold enough to get some sort of base on the mountains by mid November the East Coast should be fine.
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'Cept for those multiple thaws and periods of torrential rain followed by -12F. :shock:
 
Marc_C":18x6mckg said:
'Cept for those multiple thaws and periods of torrential rain followed by -12F. :shock:
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hey, those thaws and rain followed by siberia temps are what give the northeast some of the best corn skiing anywhere for months on end in the high places here. i'll take the funky weather so i can enjoy the extended corn periods that the intermountain west could only dream of.

rog
 
Bluebird Day":2pwh9hfx said:
That's when I catch the Thursday 5:30pm flight out of Newark NJ for SLC \:D/
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Wimp.
Marc_C":2pwh9hfx said:
rfarren":2pwh9hfx said:
We should start keeping an eye on the weather come october. If it's cold enough to get some sort of base on the mountains by mid November the East Coast should be fine.
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'Cept for those multiple thaws and periods of torrential rain followed by -12F. :shock:
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:troll:
 
I grew up skiing the East Coast ice and it was the best training ground for learning how to ski in all conditions. But 40 years later I'd rather ski on soft snow.... call me a Wimp, but I'd rather live by the old saying "ice is for cocktails".

BTW: might add that when I learned to ski 40 years ago, it really was ice. Blue, transparent ice. With the improvement of snowmaking and grooming technology, my kids now (thankfully) have never had to ski the ice I did as a 6 year old when learning how to ski in Vermont at Suicide Six.
 
Neither of the above predictions mean jack for the NE. The 2 off-the-charts El Nino seasons of 1982-83 and 1997-98 produced 106% and 104% of normal snow in New England. FYI last year was also 104%. And the current El Nino readings are barely 1/3 of those recorded in the 2 huge years above.

The NE will have its usual roller coaster of conditions ranging from outstanding to unbelievably awful. Rewarding for those who can be flexible and frustrating for those who can't.
 
The NE will have its usual roller coaster of conditions ranging from outstanding to unbelievably awful. Rewarding for those who can be flexible and frustrating for those who can't.
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The key here is being able to be flexible.... unfortunately for me I have little flexibility in my schedule to drive 6 hours for a couple of days on sketchy snow / ice.... my dreams of being a ski bum have long been lost to having a family and a demanding job. So... I schedule at least three trips out West a year (flyout Thurs, back Sunday) and supplement it with a family trip to NE and I get my 20-25 days... \:D/
 
Do we know where Bluebird Day lives? If in NYC metro or MASH, his strategy is the realistic one for most people in those regions.
 
Tony,

I live in western NJ. And I have found that SLC is a very easy place to get into and out of, on schedule. Also, I stay in the Midvale / Sandy area for $85/night and ski at Alta. Airfare usually runs @$340 and I take a shuttle from the airport to the hotel and the city bus to Alta. I just pack enough bsae layers so not to stink too badly on the way back and will most likely demo some FAT skis instead of checking skis at the new surcharge of $50+.

BBD
 
Bluebird Day":1501fsqa said:
Tony,

I live in western NJ. And I have found that SLC is a very easy place to get into and out of, on schedule. Also, I stay in the Midvale / Sandy area for $85/night and ski at Alta. Airfare usually runs @$340 and I take a shuttle from the airport to the hotel and the city bus to Alta. I just pack enough bsae layers so not to stink too badly on the way back and will most likely demo some FAT skis instead of checking skis at the new surcharge of $50+.

BBD
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yikes! 85 a night! studio 6 (where i stay) in murray, a hop skip from bcc and lcc is around 50 a night fyi.

rog
 
I'm a big spender, what can I say....... :bow: Plus the Comfort Inn Suites is right across the street from a good sushi resturant and a great fish taco place. Since I don't drink, I fit right in with the crowd... \:D/
 
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