Early season help

Jem

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We planned to visit Stowe for Thanksgiving weekend. Are the conditions worth it then for the beginner trails? Are they usually open during the early season? They're planned opening is listed for 11/20. We would be using the lower spruce peak area.
 
Jem":xohwuwz4 said:
We planned to visit Stowe for Thanksgiving weekend. Are the conditions worth it then for the beginner trails? Are they usually open during the early season? They're planned opening is listed for 11/20. We would be using the lower spruce peak area.

Pay attention to the weather. If it has snowed up there and remains cold I see no reason why the conditions wouldn't be worth it. The only problem is: it hasn't really snowed much up there and it's been a bit warm as of yet. However, 2 weeks is a long time, and they could get a massive storm. Just pay attention, if no new snow falls by the 20th and there aren't any storms forcasted and it remains somewhat warm I would say it might not be worth it.

IMHO this also depends from where you are traveling. I live in NYC and stowe is a long way, so the conditions better be pristine to make it worth it, otherwise, I just assume stay around the local mountains.
 
One more thing:
If you wait till the last minute to do this trip I would highly recommend it. IMHO EC skiing is all about the last minute trip, seeing where the snow falls and then chasing it.
 
Thank you! we're coming from NYC too. Would any of the local mountains have much open before December?
 
Jem":y48k7lij said:
We planned to visit Stowe for Thanksgiving weekend. Are the conditions worth it then for the beginner trails? Are they usually open during the early season? They're planned opening is listed for 11/20. We would be using the lower spruce peak area.

The long range forecast looks awful at the moment. I would not make ski travel plans for Thanksgiving. Last year, the only skiing in the east on Thanksgiving was Sunday River on 600 vertical feet down to the midstation. This could very well be a repeat.
 
Not only is the current weather pattern looking poor for Thanksgiving skiing, I would advise caution for any skier looking for any beginner terrain in November. Most ski areas just try to get open for Thanksgiving and ski areas don't usually open with much if any beginner terrain. They will try to get it online as soon as possible and some of the larger resorts may get some token beginner terrain open. But I would never expect beginner terrain by Thanksgiving any year. Especially this one the way things look right now.
 
Jem":2hjuc0tk said:
Thank you! we're coming from NYC too. Would any of the local mountains have much open before December?

I've gone skiing multiple thanksgivings, and the only place that was ever worth it was Whistler (it's not the EC but it's reliable). The EC before thanksgiving is only worth it with a good early storm. This year I wouldn't be shocked if one of the local areas opened up a trail or so before December, but I'm not sure it would be worth it.

It might be best to hold off till mid december, and use the money you would've spent during thanksgiving for the spring when IMHO the skiing in the EC is at its best.
 
rfarren":45qvu4h8 said:
Jem":45qvu4h8 said:
This year I wouldn't be shocked if one of the local areas opened up a trail or so before December, but I'm not sure it would be worth it.
And the OP, specifically looking for beginner terrain, might want to remember what most of us call those first trails or two a WROD; white ribbon of death.
 
rfarren":18t9yql1 said:
use the money you would've spent during thanksgiving for the spring
This sentence should be the first answer to nearly anyone, anywhere, who inquiries about skiing in November beyond last minute easy daytrip distance.
 
Thanksgiving skiing at a ski resort = overrated / burning cash

Unless:
- huge Fall snowwise / natural and/or man-made.
- you have money to burn.

I wouldn't bother going out of my way (more than a daytrip and never locked in some serious lodging). I was never a big fan of Fall skiing, Spring skiing (ie. actual Spring = March 21+) has better coverage and generally better snow conditions and deals.

Geoff: last year comparison is a bit extreme and was the worst November skiing in probably over 30 years where only a limited Sunday River and limited Mont St-Sauveur were open.
 
Patrick":253zmtqn said:
Thanksgiving skiing at a ski resort = overrated / burning cash

Unless:
- huge Fall snowwise / natural and/or man-made.
- you have money to burn.
I agree, and have experienced both.

When we bought our time share at Sugarbush, they gave us a free week there, so we took it that T-giving. Nothing in the Mad River Valley was open nor was Stowe or pretty much anyone else. 55F and downpour will do that.

One year we decided to go to Sunday River - a better year, they were about 40% open, but really had only 3 or 4 beginner runs in shape.

On a three week western road trip, we threw the skis in our Toyota truck just in case there was some skiing somewhere. Turns out it was a huge fall in Colorado that year. We skied Snowmass/Aspen* - both were about 85% open. Since it was early season, we got quite the deal on a ski in-out condo at Snowmass: $125 / night (in full season it ran $450)

After moving here (UT), one huge year Snowbird opened 5 Nov with over 95% of terrain open; Alta opened 2 weeks early as well. OTOH, either last year or the year before, there was barely enough snow and cold weather to open a full week after T-giving (even Alta had only a single WROD).

So it's a major crap shoot. As Tony, Patrick, et al have said, only go at the last minute if conditions warrant and it's what you consider cheap enough. Under no conditions should anyone pre-book if there's no option of 100% refund for cancellation.
 
Patrick":1woicz9k said:
Thanksgiving skiing at a ski resort = overrated / burning cash

Unless:
- huge Fall snowwise / natural and/or man-made.
- you have money to burn.

I wouldn't bother going out of my way (more than a daytrip and never locked in some serious lodging). I was never a big fan of Fall skiing, Spring skiing (ie. actual Spring = March 21+) has better coverage and generally better snow conditions and deals.

Geoff: last year comparison is a bit extreme and was the worst November skiing in probably over 30 years where only a limited Sunday River and limited Mont St-Sauveur were open.

Thanksgiving, 1999 was worse. Killington was open on Thanksgiving Day with rocks and grass in every trough on Rime as the only skiing in the Northeast. It was closed for the weekend.
 
Geoff":11zpzzn7 said:
Patrick":11zpzzn7 said:
Geoff: last year comparison is a bit extreme and was the worst November skiing in probably over 30 years where only a limited Sunday River and limited Mont St-Sauveur were open.

Thanksgiving, 1999 was worse. Killington was open on Thanksgiving Day with rocks and grass in every trough on Rime as the only skiing in the Northeast. It was closed for the weekend.

Talking about Killington maybe, not the East as a wholed. November 2009 was the only year I remember for all other ski areas in the East being closed with the exception of MSS (half a trail/not even top-to-bottom) and SR. There was definitely better and more choose for skiing in Quebec in November 1999.
 
Patrick":2t5rlrop said:
Thanksgiving skiing at a ski resort = overrated / burning cash

Unless:
- huge Fall snowwise / natural and/or man-made.
- you have money to burn.

Or... you ALREADY burned your cash on a season pass, and your other option is hanging with your relatives! :lol:
 
Harvey44":2hcw51zn said:
Patrick":2hcw51zn said:
Thanksgiving skiing at a ski resort = overrated / burning cash

Unless:
- huge Fall snowwise / natural and/or man-made.
- you have money to burn.

Or... you ALREADY burned your cash on a season pass, and your other option is hanging with your relatives! :lol:

If you are talking about me, I'm Canadian, our Thanksgiving was one month ago. :mrgreen: Plus I don't have any close relatives left. :-(
 
Thanks everyone for your help. We canceled our reservation and are keeping an eye on the weather reports for a last minute trip.
 
In looking from tomorrow till the end of the weekend, the temps up in the more northerly lattitudes of the NE are beginning to drop....but they're erratic if one looks at the predicted highs/lows....but it is a promising trend.
So goes another pre-season stretch of "if only it were 15 degrees colder" weather.... :roll:
 
And Stowe announced today they were pushing their opening date back to Nov 24. Someone who works at Stowe mentioned in another discussion forum:
I've been up there skinning/skiing the snowmaking route the last 3 days and yesterday was definitely the bleakest. The lower half of the route (North Slope) has really opened up and is no longer continuous.
Note that the writer is talking about the *one* snowmaking route. Sure, it uses parts of 3 or 4 trails, but it will basically be one way down.
 
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