Future of Ski Industry????

[chucky]

And here's a news flash for ya - ignorant bigots don't always know they're ignorant bigots.

Try developing your vocabulary before you try using those big words. :roll:

If you put as much time into developing YOUR vocabulary as you did into "killing kittens" :roll: you realise that my definitions of "bigotry" (intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself) and "discrimination" (the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things) are spot on. Here's a word you may want to learn - "DENIAL".

 

[Patrick]

Did the rap about Taos -- that boarders would be unhappy dealing with the terrain layout (same thing that's said about Alta) -- turn out to be true or not?

Chucky? ^^^

Here Chucky, if you like a good discussion, read this.

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BTW, I don't have anything against "snowboarder" and I've enjoyed riding with my boarder friend Hamdog. HOWEVER that doesn't mean I would agree to lift the ban on snowboarding at MRG. I'll let Admin defend Alta decision.

 

[Killclimbz]

Sweet, another thread that is degrading into the skier vs snowboarder thing. Which I just don't get.

Anyhow, snowboarding has definitely flattened. I think if you look at skiing trends from the past you can see predict what snowboarding is going to go through in the future. The sport is seeing it's first generation of riders getting into their 30's and 40's now. This is a small group relative to snowboarders as a whole group. We blazed the way, now the young 'uns can take it for what it's worth.

The Burton Poacher campaign served it's purpose. Probably just pissing in the wind, but it brought the issue of these resorts back to center stage. What will happen is just like Taos, the remaining resorts will see a down turn, need more revenue, and turn to snowboarders to save their ass. Plenty of people will jump at the chance to ride their over hyped mountain. I'll skip on giving them my money. I wasn't good enough back then, nothing has changed, and quite frankly I am too good for them. Why should I give my hard earned dollars to people who hated on me and excluded me because of what I rode? Taos won't see a $1 from me. As far as I am concerned there is way better terrain (and free)to go ride than what they offer at their second rate mountain.

See you in the backcountry, I'll gladly share turns with whatever mode of transportation you choose. As long as you're willing to earn it.

 

[rfarren]

I think one of the biggest problems in the skier vs. snowboarder debate is ignorance.

Comments like "If you happen upon a group of snowboarders sitting on their arses in the middle of a run, especially if they are below a roll in the terrain, you have the right to smack them upside the head with your pole" are evidence enough. Go to any resort anywhere in the world and you'll see MANY MORE skiers standing around leaning on their poles in inappropriate places - and that's the SAME THING! When skiers stop/rest/wait they stand up - when boarders stop /rest/wait they sit down, it's the nature of the equipment. Failing to realise this is ignorant.

What would be ignorance is to ignore the simple rule of sight. If a bunch of boarders are sitting under a headwall, they are out of view for a bit longer than that of a skier standing in the same inappropriate place. When you are going 30 mph down a hill an obstacle that is sitting is a bit more hazardous than that which is standing, due to the amount of time that you have left to react.

If they allowed snowboarding at Alta it would be the biggest travesty of my life. I would however pay money to watch all the snowboarders above the collins mid station "hopping" to get back down to the bottom.

 

[Admin]

Taos won't see a $1 from me.

Whether I agree with you or not, I can respect that. We all vote with our dollars.

 

[Geoff]

Taos won't see a $1 from me.

Whether I agree with you or not, I can respect that. We all vote with our dollars.

Taos won't see another dollar from me, either. Has nothing to do with snowboarding. I was very unimpressed with the mountain. I think they have far too much uphill capacity for the number of acres and amount of snow they receive. I didn't care for the vibe in the town. I thought it was very expensive for what it was.

That long traverse out to the bottom will be pretty ugly when you inject snowboards into the Texas Tuck crowd. They don't get enough snow to handle the low skill snowboarders sideslipping the steeper terrain so a lot of that will likely degrade. Doesn't matter. I'd already decided I wasn't coming back other than maybe a day trip up from Santa Fe long before they allowed snowboarding last March.