Mont-Sainte-Anne, QC 11/25/08

Although there is only one run open, the conditions would definitely not be, what Tony calls, the WROD.
While the surface might be OK, skier density is usually an issue with only one run open. For some strange reason I'm a bit more conscious of skier traffic after last April 12. :oops:

As you recall, you left warp speed at the top of the gondi to go wait in-line at the chair while I explored from fresh and deep trackless snow. That might be why Admin and I count some of our powder days above 90% and you don't.
By getting there early I did not wait in line at all for Thunder and the first 2 untracked runs on Sublette (Alta 1 and Bivouac), after which I was in the Hobacks by 10:15AM. With Jackson's lift setup, no one was close to 90% that day unless they went out of bounds. I'd rather move fast on a fresh day and try to stay just ahead of the crowds, leaving the grunt work for when the easily accessible stuff is tracked out. Patrick did work that impressive stash that was still powder in late afternoon, but it was a somewhat bony/tedious traverse away from the Bridger gondola. It's not clear how much vertical/powder I might have lost elsewhere if I had done that traverse every time up.

It's a judgment call, and Patrick and I were both very pleased with our results that day. I think this may be a common cause of the solo skiing on powder days. Abilities may be compatible, but when it's that good most of us junkies are opinionated and want to do it our way.
 
E-mail from Le Massif today:

Le Massif is buried under 41 cm of snow, and it’s still falling!
Waiting for you at the opening,
December 6 & 7, 2008.

Have to respect that they aren't rushing to open for the sake of opening.
 
Have to respect that they aren't rushing to open for the sake of opening.
I'm not sure that admin, who skied the WROD at MSA and will be long gone before Le Massif opens, would agree with that sentiment. I prefer the Mammoth philosophy of having your ski area open based upon what's on the ground more than the calendar at both ends of the season.
 
Tony Crocker":2hpl84e6 said:
I prefer the Mammoth philosophy of having your ski area open based upon what's on the ground more than the calendar at both ends of the season.
To be fair to Le Massif, the amount of potential skiers within a weekend drive to Mammoth and Le Massif isn't really the same. Mammoth is the only show in town and has a town, Massif isn't.

I mentioned recently that if MSA isn't careful, they could lose their exclusiveness of early/late skiing. Over time, their bottom line could suffer if people starts moving dropping MSA season passes for Le Massif passes.

MSS did this in the early 80s and competed against Gray Rocks early/late season, once Tremblant got into the act (only for a few season)...people stopped heading exclusively to GR. I believe Gray Rocks closed the late weekend of March last season, they used to close late May every season.
 
Patrick":20r3691j said:
To be fair to Le Massif, the amount of potential skiers within a weekend drive to Mammoth and Le Massif isn't really the same. Mammoth is the only show in town and has a town, Massif isn't.

Although one statistic cited by MSA's communications department that I found interesting is that in the Quebec City metro area, one in five residents skis or snowboards.

Patrick":20r3691j said:
I mentioned recently that if MSA isn't careful, they could lose their exclusiveness of early/late skiing. Over time, their bottom line could suffer if people starts moving dropping MSA season passes for Le Massif passes.

I asked about the early season commitment. I was assured that it had nothing to do with scaling back a snowmaking budget. Rather, I was told that they had a problem with a main water line last week.[/quote]
 
Admin":d85nsai4 said:
Patrick":d85nsai4 said:
I mentioned recently that if MSA isn't careful, they could lose their exclusiveness of early/late skiing. Over time, their bottom line could suffer if people starts moving dropping MSA season passes for Le Massif passes.

I asked about the early season commitment. I was assured that it had nothing to do with scaling back a snowmaking budget. Rather, I was told that they had a problem with a main water line last week.

Thanks Marc. You got the scoop when the folks at ZS wondered what had gone wrong. Regardless, if they would lose that commitment, someone could give them some trouble. Le Massif wasn't as major of an area 6-7 years ago and Massif du Sud wasn't even on radar for most folks. Aging skiers market, eventually declining number, aging infrastructures plus stronger competition and lower prices elsewhere could hurt them in the long run if they aren't careful.
 
To be fair to Le Massif, the amount of potential skiers within a weekend drive to Mammoth and Le Massif isn't really the same. Mammoth is the only show in town and has a town, Massif isn't.
Massif doesn't need a town. It's about 1.5 hours daytrip drive from Quebec City, right?
 
The really pow and fun was Yesterdays at Le Massif. Earning our turns and 2 feet deep snow. The perfect combination. First feet and 6 inches like a not so soft snow close to hardpack and 6 inches on top for pow. Hiking up on skiddo trails. Then skiing. Opening next Sat Dec 6. Snowing again in town.
1 foot at Le Massif tomorrow? We'll see. Anyone? :ski:
 
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